What not to do

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by BigUnionGuy, Nov 13, 2018.

  1. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt

  2. iruhnman630

    iruhnman630 Well-Known Member

    He may have a saving grace in the substance abuse program UPS has. Doubt it though.

    Either way he will certainly be off the road while his license is suspended.
  3. badpal

    badpal Active Member

    Forgot to shave in the morning too.
  4. brownmonster

    brownmonster Man of Great Wisdom

    He said he drank because he was worried about losing his job. Self fulfilling prophecy?
  5. By the report, it sounds like he was using a helper and .316.
    Alot of people are fortunate in this case.

    A lot of hurting people out there.
  6. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt

    He's done completely.

    You can't ask for help.... after the fact.

    Article 35 Section 4.11

    "3. Dischargeable Offenses

    D. Possession of and/or consumption of an alcoholic beverage while on duty."

    Central Region Supplement

    Article 17

    "(b) drinking of, or under the influence of alcoholic beverage or narcotics during the workday pursuant to National Master Article 35;"

    He was almost 4 times the legal limit.


  7. The Driver

    The Driver I drive.

    Article mentions that the driver claimed he is going through a divorce. I feel for him. But this job can't tolerate someone being wasted on the clock, there's too much at stake. I wish him all the best.
  8. If they really like the guy they can't give a "no precedent set" decision since he didnt physically hurt someone or property?
  9. oldupsman

    oldupsman Well-Known Member

    True story. From the old days. Knew both these guys very well. One was a center manager, one a driver.
    center manager is out doing on road checks. Goes into package car while the driver is making the delivery. Finds a
    six pack half gone. Driver comes out. To the center manager is was obvious the driver had been drinking.

    Here's the thing. These two were drinking buddies. Belonged to the same social clubs. center manager was known to
    go out in the afternoon and come back to building with a little load. He's no stranger to on the job drinking.

    center manager takes the beer and leaves. Story comes out one night after the center manager is transferred out of the building and
    we're sitting in one of those social clubs drinking. Both retired from UPS with 30 plus years. One has
    since passed. Like I said, The Old Days.
  10. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt

    Unfortunately, the company would never entertain the idea.

    I have too much experience (again unfortunately) in dealing with these issues.

    Driving the truck, arrested, almost 4 times the legal limit, and with a passenger.

    Way to much liability.

    The reason you can't ask for rehab after the fact....

    Article 16 Section 3.1

    "When an employee, in any job classification requiring driving, loses his or her operating privilege or whose license has been suspended or revoked for reasons other than those for which the employee can be discharged by the Employer,"


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  11. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

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  12. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt

    Oh, the stories I could tell.... it was a different time.
  13. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    No the article said whiskey. @dookie stain only drinks the coffee creamer Jim Beam. Almost impossible to get drunk on it unless you're wearing a skirt.
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  14. Richard Harrow

    Richard Harrow Deplorable.

    The really crappy thing is the company probably knew about his addiction and did nothing.

    We had a guy who was a terrible alcoholic on our center. He did the right thing and didnt drink on the job, but by about 6 pm he would be going through terrible withdrawal, so much so that they had to send 2 or 3 split drivers to come take all but like 10 stops off of him. It was an open secret. Nobody in management did anything, everybody on the union side didn't wanna approach them fearing that they'd be labeled as a rat or not minding their own business, though I know a few guys said something to him privately.

    He never got help and dropped dead about 10 or 12 years ago now. He was maybe 46.

    Addiction is horrible.
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  15. Indecisi0n

    Indecisi0n Well-Known Member

    If his wife wasn't divorcing him then none of this would have happened.
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  16. Wally

    Wally BrownCafe Innovator & King of Puns

    I wonder how many are smoking weed on the job?
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  17. burrheadd

    burrheadd KING Of GIFS

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  18. Wally

    Wally BrownCafe Innovator & King of Puns

    So you don't think any of these potheads are using on the job?
  19. burrheadd

    burrheadd KING Of GIFS

    It’s medicine
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  20. Wally

    Wally BrownCafe Innovator & King of Puns

    So is morphine, but you don't drive under its influence.