What we could lose next contract

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by backinbrown, Feb 2, 2009.

  1. backinbrown

    backinbrown respect my authority

    What we could lose next contract or at least in next ten years.

    There is a lot going on with this 9.5 issues, and you have a lot of people filing grievances.

    And we have many people who run there lunch, and want to be paid hours worked.

    With the economy and what we make, ups will fight for no more guaranteed 8 hrs.

    Union will fight when it goes to panel we could lose, they will have plenty of grievances over 9.5 and documentation of drivers running lunch, and there will be a lot of documentation on both issues.

    UPS will use these things against us and they could get arbitration to agree with UPS to just pay us hours worked, and goodbye guaranteed 8.

    talk of this is going around, just because i am paranoid doesn't mean I'm wrong.
  2. 705red

    705red Browncafe Steward

    You speak of what we could lose in the next contract, and these might be some things on the table, but it would never fly.

    An arbitrator would not rule against any 9.5s or guarantees because we have these rights!

    Your getting way ahead of your self, the next contract is 2013!
  3. backinbrown

    backinbrown respect my authority

    being discussed in my local
  4. backinbrown

    backinbrown respect my authority

    may not be next contract but it could happen next 20 yrs
  5. 705red

    705red Browncafe Steward

    By your agents? If so, you need to vote them out next election!

    Ups has not sent over a wish list as of yet! This i could promise you!
  6. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt Obscured by Mirrors Staff Member

    Talking 'bout Lulu
  7. backinbrown

    backinbrown respect my authority

    it is a prediction of things to come

    i know they dont have a list yet

    but does not mean we are not thinking ahead
  8. Bubblehead

    Bubblehead My Senior Picture

    Not sure what your trying to say. I don't see the correlation between the two issues.
  9. drewed

    drewed Shankman

    Yea we're not even a year into this contract...its foolish to think about it, especially since the way the economy works out over the next 4 years or so will weigh heavily on what the contract says
  10. backinbrown

    backinbrown respect my authority

    lulu is hot lol
  11. tourists24

    tourists24 Well-Known Member

    You guys can call me and I will explain all these things to you about contract changes... I can be reached at BR549....
  12. backinbrown

    backinbrown respect my authority

    people dont want to work the way the contract is the run there lunches so they get done early there have been alot of over 9.5 greivances more proof we dont want to work

    people just volunteering to be pd hours worked

    it all adds up

    JMO guess i should have kept it to myself
  13. cachsux

    cachsux Wah

    According to the Mayan calender the world ends in 2012 so why worry?
  14. JonFrum

    JonFrum Member

    Actually, we're more than 13 months into the Contract. The Contract started on Dec 19, 2007. Let's all count the days on our skimpy, but ecologically friendly, "green" UPS calendar. :happy2:
  15. drewed

    drewed Shankman

    Language wise yes, economics wise no....i think the economics is what is on everyones mind right now
  16. Sales Lead!

    Sales Lead! New Member

    My number one issue is the pension. We lose ground on the pension and other benefits and our future will be ----------!
  17. cino321

    cino321 Active Member

    I doubt UPS would be willing to a agree to something like paying hours worked; the lunch is mandatory it becomes a safety issue; whether you take it or not is another story.
  18. evilleace

    evilleace Member

    Just because some
    one does not want to work over 9.5 does not mean they dont want to work at all.

    HEFFERNAN Huge Member

    It is talked about that we are in a great depression. That started with a stock market crash in October 29,1929 and hit rock bottom in March 1933. Then with FDR's leadership, we gained momentum in a positive direction.

    This downturn lasted 3 years and 5 months. Plus you have to add the effects of a major drought in the midwest that took us down more. Most people believe we started down the depression road in late 2006, early 2007. So there is a great chance by our next contract, the economy will be much improved and growing by leaps and bounds.

    I believe the economy now will have no effect on our new contract talks. Just a bunch of chicken littles telling everyone the sky is falling. There is a reason you should be buying stocks and investing right now.

    John D. Rockefeller said that "These are days when many are discouraged. In the 93 years of my life, depressions have come and gone. Prosperity has always returned and will again."

    QKRSTKR Active Member

    Thanks for that LOL. It'll end during peak season of 2012 if I remember right.