When will 22.4 positions open up

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by newenglandyankee, May 23, 2019.

  1. newenglandyankee

    newenglandyankee New Member

    Just trying to get information for my coworkers at my hub in New England. Looking to see if 22.4 positions will go live prior to beginning of peak. I am asked this on a constant basis at the hub and wanted to provide correct information to them.
     
  2. upschuck

    upschuck Well-Known Member

    Nobody knows, but we can guess, if you like.
     
  3. Pizza

    Pizza BrownCafer of the Month

  4. Sweeper

    Sweeper I need a bigger broom

    I’d talk to a steward or perhaps your BA. Ultimately it’s up to UPS to start hiring 22.4s. So as others have said unless someone on here has direct knowledge as it pertains to your hub we’re just guessing.
     
  5. Mooseknuckle

    Mooseknuckle Active Member

    They put up bid sheets for it in my center but, I'm not in New England.
     
  6. Jackburton

    Jackburton Gone Fish'n

    You must not like your coworkers.
     
  7. 1989

    1989 Well-Known Member

    Ask management what their plan is.
     
  8. just chillin'

    just chillin' Rest in peace wooba

    you got sat ground? its comin then no? still have no clue how there going to implement this here or anywhere. we have like 80 drivers now and maybe 15 are tue - sat running 15 routes on sat leaving only 65 drivers for mon which works cause of the gutted mon volume delivered on sat. so now those guys are to go back to mon - fri and were supposed to hire/promote 15 more 22.4 guys (up to 20 to meet the 25% rule) to deliver the sat routes? so now tues - fri we will have 95 drivers instead of our normal 80 and the gutted monday will have 80 drivers instead of 65. there gonna have to get real creative with utilizing the "combo" part of this position with some weird start times during the week so these jobs will most likely involve inside work during the week and full day delivery on sat
     
  9. wide load

    wide load Starting wage is a waste of time.

    You’ll see an influx when they convert all the RPCD’s to a Monday to Friday schedule.
     
  10. Bubblehead

    Bubblehead My Senior Picture

    They are banking on many drivers being willing to take a dive on Mondays.
     
  11. Or maybe push for 4X10's?
     
  12. 1989

    1989 Well-Known Member

    4X10’s are better than 5X10’s
     
  13. Not on payday
     
  14. eats packages

    eats packages Why won't the door close?

    Nobody has qualified since October of last year. I suppose any new driver this year is going to be a 22.4 purely because they get paid less.

    Not understaffed, It is just we overhired the year before due to the corporate 9.5 mandate.
     
  15. They still have a guaranteed amount of RPCD
     
  16. 22.34life

    22.34life Active Member

    I saw the first bid list today for 22.4 but I'm in the south.
     
  17. Zowert

    Zowert Active Member

    They have 18 months from the day the contract was ratified to make all Tuesday thru Saturday drivers M-F. Within that time period they’ll have to hire 22.4’s to work weekends.
     
  18. Whatbrownwontdoforyou

    Whatbrownwontdoforyou Well-Known Member

    I’m curious if ups is going to make 22.4s qualify.....will ups try to qualify them out of classification as an rpcd.....all 22.4 are going to be tues-sat or wed-sun all the training routes are mon-fri.....will they be allowed to train them as an rpcd?
     
  19. Netsua 3:16

    Netsua 3:16 Active Member

    I asked my OC this exact question, he said they go through a Mon-Fri packet just like everybody else then are immediately Tues-Sat when graduated. Also made it clear to those of us who were hired as Tues-Sat RPCD's that we can be temporarily moved back to a Tues-Sat. schedule if necessary, but that we would never work Sundays ever. That's what the 22.4's are for
     
  20. Staydryitsraining

    Staydryitsraining Active Member

    22.4s is to get more ft union dues. Company will use them to get rcpd or ftd or 300s off of ot weekend work.