Where Are The Lawyers?

Discussion in 'FedEx Discussions' started by MrFedEx, Jul 22, 2013.

  1. MrFedEx

    MrFedEx Engorged Member

    I'm at the end of 13/14, so I'll make it quick. Where are all the class action lawyers out there? FedEx is running employees out of town on a rail, especially if they're older, and making a mockery of the law in regard to safety,injuries, disability, and so much more. Fred has spread some powerful amounts of cash to his political buddies, but this is a company that is dirty to the core, exceeding even the "protections" afforded by compliant politicians. I guess we sit back and wait for them to build extermination chambers in the parking lot (for employees over 45), and for one special courier to hit that school bus full of kids before we fight back. This isn't a game, people...it's rapidly becoming war, and they've declared it on you. Fight back!
  2. vantexan

    vantexan Well-Known Member

    ​Have you filed a suit yet?
  3. Ricochet1a

    Ricochet1a New Member

    Had a professor in a business law class who was a retired judge - and he had a rule of thumb when it came to class action suits: 1,000 cases to get a firm interested in starting class action litigation and 10,000 cases to get a firm interested in going all the way to a court ordered judgment once class action has been approved by a court.

    Class action costs law firms BIG MONEY and most can't take that risk. Their legal fee is all contingency, so if they don't prove their case, they get paid NOTHING. Not many firms like accepting contingency fee if they aren't confident in a slam dunk.

    Age discrimination: there just aren't enough Couriers out there that are over 50 and can DEMONSTRATE discrimination based solely on their age and NOT some other feature/issue. Poor health of someone over 50 doesn't constitute age discrimination. There has to be a SYSTEMATIC method of either eliminating employees due SOLELY to their age or some other non-performance related issue, to gain traction for age discrimination. We all know the net effect of the new health insurance plan that is coming out, but that doesn't PROVE an intent to get rid of older employees and hire younger employees to replace them.

    Injuries: Again, the numbers just aren't there for any firm to really take an interest in seeking class action status for those who are injured and quickly lose their employment as a result. Something like this is handled by litigation with the claimant suing their employer as an individual (not as a class), and more often than not, seeking an out of court settlement. This is one way corporations keep from having a 'snowball effect' gather momentum against them. They pay off the REALLY serious cases, throw a non-disclosure clause on the settlement (in exchange for a little extra cash), and that claimant's 'story' goes away - never to haunt the company again. The snowball never gets really big and the corporation avoids getting hit with the whammy of class action litigation.

    This is somewhat analogous to the question that is constantly asked here, "Why doesn't the IBT just step in and save us all"????

    Short answer: Money - just not enough to catch their interest and the odds of winning (given the 'terrain' of the Couriers' mindset towards organizing), is slim to none.

    I think you all understand better why that lawyer had the 'Examiner" web page up now - he was trolling for potential cases. Funny thing was, he gave up private practice, became an administrative law judge then for whatever reason, posted HERE that he WASN'T 'trolling' for clients. Must of had some questions raised about his activities prior to becoming an administrative law judge. Funny how that works...
  4. MrFedEx

    MrFedEx Engorged Member

    No, but I would gladly be part of a class action involving age discrimination.
  5. MrFedEx

    MrFedEx Engorged Member

    I was on FedExaminer for awhile, until I realized the same thing you mentioned about the site being a troll net for potential cases. I was contacted several times by Mr.Klausnitzer (sic?), who was the lead plaintiff in the now-abandoned age discrimination class action. I also remember the attorney who ran the site having his "disclaimer" published when he became a judge. I never made another post.
  6. bbsam

    bbsam Moderator Staff Member

    What happened to FedEx Watch? Same thing? I noticed their site died right after Obestar's RLA fight died. That was the IBT lawyer's site.
  7. Ricochet1a

    Ricochet1a New Member

    You asked the same question almost 3 years ago


    The IBT gave up on Express and walked away after FedEx managed to keep the RLA in place. They knew they were beat, so no sense in trying to bluff with an obvious losing hand.

    The only thing they still have up in relation to Express is the mechanics site: FedEx Air Mechanics United

    Even that hasn't been updated in over a year and a half.

    Short answer to everything relating to this: Money.
  8. bbsam

    bbsam Moderator Staff Member

    Suffice it to say, the lawyers left for more fertile grounds and aren't coming back.
  9. Cactus

    Cactus Just telling it like it is

    Not coming back.....quite yet.