Which article covers "past practice"

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by bigmistake, Aug 17, 2010.

  1. bigmistake

    bigmistake Member

    In the past, if you forgot your ID, a supv. would come and sign you in. Now, no ID, you are denied access to the center and not allowed to work.

    I asked our Steward and it appears he doesn't want to make waves. Could this be covered under past practice. One good thing, it's a green light to take a day off.

    Any suggestions?
  2. UnsurePost

    UnsurePost making the unreadable unreadabler

    On peak day, forget your ID. Call in and say you can't make it, you forgot your ID. :knockedout:

    Seriously, I do not see why a sup cannot come and sign you in. Was there a sign-in sheet? perhaps they were overstaffed and saw an opportunity to take advantage of this.

    File a grievance for someone lower in seniority working if a call-in list was available in guardshack and the company decided to lay you off for the day.
  3. trplnkl

    trplnkl 555

    We didn't have a guard shack but were issued IDs at one point, they told us we HAD to wear them but in a week or so no one enforced the rule when people forgot to wear them. We sure never were sent home for not having them.
  4. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Here's a thought--make sure you are prepared for work before you come to work.
  5. UPSGUY72

    UPSGUY72 Well-Known Member

    Grow up and be prepared for work everyday.

    How hard is it to bring your ID to work everynight. This shouldn't be a problem but apparently for you it is. I could see it happening once then I would change the way I do thing to make sure that I always have my ID with me.

    I have some suggestions that might help you.

    1. Put your ID in your wallet
    2. Leave your ID in your car
    3. Leave your ID in your lunch pail
  6. brownmonster

    brownmonster Man of Great Wisdom

    When your Mom drops you off have her remind you to bring your ID.
  7. moreluck

    moreluck golden ticket member

    Call Klein, maybe you guys could hang !!
  8. JonFrum

    JonFrum Member

    Are you talking about your Employee ID Number to punch in, or a physical ID Card?

    Is your facility an airport or restricted air operation??? UPS may be required to deny you entry by TSA if you don't have your badge.

    "Past Practice" is a well-established doctrine in Labor Relations covering certain issues not addressed in the Contract.

    But check for a "Maintainence of Standards" clause in your Supplement, as well as language guaranteeing you work as long as you show up.
  9. 22.34life

    22.34life Active Member

    THE ONLY problem is that it would not be day off but a no call no show.this is probably the real reason they are doing this.
  10. UPSGUY72

    UPSGUY72 Well-Known Member

  11. FracusBrown

    FracusBrown Ponies and Planes

    My guess is that they are doing this because there are a lot of irresponsible people showing up without ID. In a large building or hub, it can take 20 minutes or more to walk out to the guard shack and back.

    What would you do if you were the person that had to stop what you were doing, hike out to the guard shack and hike back, still do your normal work, not get paid for any additional time and still be expected to get all your work done?

    How long would it take before you put a stop to it?

    There's no ulterior motive, it's just a big waste of someone else's time.