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<blockquote data-quote="brazenbrown" data-source="post: 378079" data-attributes="member: 9007"><p>So in other words, your words, our sons and daughters have paid the highest price <strong>u</strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><strong>nnecessarily!<img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/knockedout.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":knockedout:" title="Knockedout :knockedout:" data-shortname=":knockedout:" /></strong> </span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">I'll walk over to my neighbors house right now, that'd be my neighbor who's son died in the war a couple of years ago, I'll tell him it was all for nothing, it was really just unnecessary as you say. I'll tell him the convictions that his son had for enlisting and fighting for ours and the Iraqi's freedom were misguided and that he should have told him to stay home.</span></span> <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/biting.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":biting:" title="Biting :biting:" data-shortname=":biting:" /></p><p></p><p>Do you really think that turning a blind eye to an evil dictator and his regime who massacred thousands of their own people with a wide range of forms of torture, including the gouging out of eyes, severe beatings, and electric shocks etc etc is the right way to go??</p><p></p><p>Saddam has had approximately 40 of his own relatives murdered.</p><p></p><p><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20090114174128/http://www.state.gov/p/nea/rls/19675.htm" target="_blank">https://web.archive.org/web/20090114174128/http://www.state.gov/p/nea/rls/19675.htm</a></p><p></p><p>Allegations of prostitution are used to intimidate opponents of the regime and have been used by the regime to justify the barbaric beheading of women. There have been documented chemical attacks by the regime, from 1983 to 1988, resulting in some 30,000 Iraqi and Iranian deaths. Human Rights Watch estimates that Saddam's 1987-1988 campaign of terror against the Kurds killed at least 50,000 and possibly as many as 100,000 Kurds.</p><p>The Iraqi regime used chemical agents to include mustard gas and nerve agents, WMD's I might add, in attacks against at least 40 Kurdish villages between 1987-1988. The largest was the attack on Halabja which resulted in approximately 5,000 deaths. 2,000 Kurdish villages were destroyed during the campaign of terror.</p><p>I remember reading reports of how they'd put people through shredder/chipper machines feet first....</p><p></p><p>But according to you it was all <strong><span style="font-size: 12px">unnecessary.</span></strong> Each soldier's life is valuable and no one should have to go through the pain of losing a loved one. However, there is evil that exists in the world and for us not to act would make us just as evil for allowing it to happen.</p><p></p><p>I think stories like this, <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7482307.stm" target="_blank">Bagdad sees tentative rebirth </a>starting to come out of Iraq give people reassurance that we are doing the right thing. I know people like my neighbor and the many military families, brothers, sisters and parents need to hear that their loved ones did not die only to see us retreat before the job is done!</p><p></p><p>As for the world if Iraq continues to move in the direction of becoming a stabilized democracy, this part of the world will be a safer place. It will have been worth it. Yes the sacrifice is hard but the alternative IMHO is far worse!</p><p></p><p>Ronald Reagan once said:</p><p><strong>'The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so.'</strong></p><p>and</p><p><strong>'No arsenal, or no weapon in the arsenals of the world, is as formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women.'</strong></p><p></p><p>Thank God for our military!!<img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/emoticons/thumbsup.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":thumbsup:" title="Thumbsup :thumbsup:" data-shortname=":thumbsup:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="brazenbrown, post: 378079, member: 9007"] So in other words, your words, our sons and daughters have paid the highest price [B]u[/B][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana][B]nnecessarily!:knockedout:[/B] [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]I'll walk over to my neighbors house right now, that'd be my neighbor who's son died in the war a couple of years ago, I'll tell him it was all for nothing, it was really just unnecessary as you say. I'll tell him the convictions that his son had for enlisting and fighting for ours and the Iraqi's freedom were misguided and that he should have told him to stay home.[/FONT][/COLOR] :biting: Do you really think that turning a blind eye to an evil dictator and his regime who massacred thousands of their own people with a wide range of forms of torture, including the gouging out of eyes, severe beatings, and electric shocks etc etc is the right way to go?? Saddam has had approximately 40 of his own relatives murdered. [url]https://web.archive.org/web/20090114174128/http://www.state.gov/p/nea/rls/19675.htm[/url] Allegations of prostitution are used to intimidate opponents of the regime and have been used by the regime to justify the barbaric beheading of women. There have been documented chemical attacks by the regime, from 1983 to 1988, resulting in some 30,000 Iraqi and Iranian deaths. Human Rights Watch estimates that Saddam's 1987-1988 campaign of terror against the Kurds killed at least 50,000 and possibly as many as 100,000 Kurds. The Iraqi regime used chemical agents to include mustard gas and nerve agents, WMD's I might add, in attacks against at least 40 Kurdish villages between 1987-1988. The largest was the attack on Halabja which resulted in approximately 5,000 deaths. 2,000 Kurdish villages were destroyed during the campaign of terror. I remember reading reports of how they'd put people through shredder/chipper machines feet first.... But according to you it was all [B][SIZE=3]unnecessary.[/SIZE][/B] Each soldier's life is valuable and no one should have to go through the pain of losing a loved one. However, there is evil that exists in the world and for us not to act would make us just as evil for allowing it to happen. I think stories like this, [URL='http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7482307.stm']Bagdad sees tentative rebirth [/URL]starting to come out of Iraq give people reassurance that we are doing the right thing. I know people like my neighbor and the many military families, brothers, sisters and parents need to hear that their loved ones did not die only to see us retreat before the job is done! As for the world if Iraq continues to move in the direction of becoming a stabilized democracy, this part of the world will be a safer place. It will have been worth it. Yes the sacrifice is hard but the alternative IMHO is far worse! Ronald Reagan once said: [B]'The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so.'[/B] and [B]'No arsenal, or no weapon in the arsenals of the world, is as formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women.'[/B] Thank God for our military!!:thumbsup: [/QUOTE]
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