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<blockquote data-quote="area43" data-source="post: 254179" data-attributes="member: 4862"><p>Just a few more thoughts on my attempt to try and change the minds of the UPSers that would want to cross the picket line. First, the process in which the Teamsters handle the neg. I will use the present tent. contract 08 as an example. The Teamsters, send out a survey to each of its members(us) on what is important. Then, they take that info and make up a plan to give to UPS. They hammer out a deal. Next, they send it out for a vote. A democratic process. We either vote it down or accept it. Lets just say it gets voted down. Now, what does the Teamsters do next? Do they send out a Strike authorization vote? Why not? Or do they try and work on another counter contract offer/lets say UPS agrees and that gets sent out for a vote? In 97 the first offer was turned down, they(the Teamsters) went right for the Strike Authorization vote, thus eliminating us members a chance to vote on the Counter offer. Btw the Strike Authorization vote was approved. Was that right or wrong? Debatable? With the Strike auth. approved. It basically put all the power and faith in our Teamsters neg comm. hands. This was the democratic process. I will respect that(strike auth. vote) even if I might disagree or voted against it. Please keep all that in mind as I proceed.</p><p> </p><p>Lets go to the the 1992 Presidential campaign. I voted. I did not vote for Bill Clinton. Now, Im not trying to start something here. Just using this as an example. Bill Clinton had some, lets just say questionable character flaws while he was governor of Ark. In relation to the Teamsters, they have some questionable character flaws. LOL Ok, I voted for Bush Sr. Bush lost. Now did I go scale the walls of the White House and drag Bill out of office. No, I did not. I respected the majorities decision to put him in office. In relation to the strike(97) and the Teamsters I believe you have to respect the majorities decision. Right or Wrong. I believe scaling the walls of the White House would be the equivalent of crossing over the picket line. IMO I believe its the line in the sand that shouldn't be crossed. Yes, I am against corruption, but crossing the line is the wrong way of going about changing it. Red, and his local 705 has the right way of changing the union for the better. Thats how it should be done. It maintains a sense of unity among the members. When crossing you have broken the unity. Again, Yes we have problems and differences, but we should work them out on our side of the fence/line. </p><p> </p><p>In closing. Have you ever watched the movie "Scarface" with Al Pacino. In one scene he goes home to his younger sister and mothers house. AL was just starting to reap the rewards of being a mobster. His mother was a very Moral person. Al tried to give his mother some cash, but she through it back at him and told him to leave. She also might have slapped him. LOL The mother did not want to have anything to do with his dirty money. I will now write another script for the movie. Lets say the one that crossed the picket line was the mother. Strong moral convictions. Al Picino was the Teamsters and its members sacrafices in achieving the dirty money(wages and bennies). Extortion/strike. Ok, in this script, the mother would slap Pacino, call him some bad names and kick him out of the house. That would be equal to crossing the picket line. BUT, its not over as you might have noticed she keeps the cash. Hmmmm. I never said she gave back the cash he gave her. The mother is a hypocrite. I m not a very pc type of person, but thats how I feel. If you are going to cross and stand by your convictions and you want my respect this is what you should do.</p><p> </p><p>First, Subtract the difference of your wage from the Fedex non union delivery company and give the difference to charity. Second, Vacations, again subtract from Fedex's vacations. Donate the difference in weeks to charity. As you can see I can go on and on. If you want a change in the Teamsters do it from within. Crossing the picket line does nothing but hurt. Sorry, just my opinion.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="area43, post: 254179, member: 4862"] Just a few more thoughts on my attempt to try and change the minds of the UPSers that would want to cross the picket line. First, the process in which the Teamsters handle the neg. I will use the present tent. contract 08 as an example. The Teamsters, send out a survey to each of its members(us) on what is important. Then, they take that info and make up a plan to give to UPS. They hammer out a deal. Next, they send it out for a vote. A democratic process. We either vote it down or accept it. Lets just say it gets voted down. Now, what does the Teamsters do next? Do they send out a Strike authorization vote? Why not? Or do they try and work on another counter contract offer/lets say UPS agrees and that gets sent out for a vote? In 97 the first offer was turned down, they(the Teamsters) went right for the Strike Authorization vote, thus eliminating us members a chance to vote on the Counter offer. Btw the Strike Authorization vote was approved. Was that right or wrong? Debatable? With the Strike auth. approved. It basically put all the power and faith in our Teamsters neg comm. hands. This was the democratic process. I will respect that(strike auth. vote) even if I might disagree or voted against it. Please keep all that in mind as I proceed. Lets go to the the 1992 Presidential campaign. I voted. I did not vote for Bill Clinton. Now, Im not trying to start something here. Just using this as an example. Bill Clinton had some, lets just say questionable character flaws while he was governor of Ark. In relation to the Teamsters, they have some questionable character flaws. LOL Ok, I voted for Bush Sr. Bush lost. Now did I go scale the walls of the White House and drag Bill out of office. No, I did not. I respected the majorities decision to put him in office. In relation to the strike(97) and the Teamsters I believe you have to respect the majorities decision. Right or Wrong. I believe scaling the walls of the White House would be the equivalent of crossing over the picket line. IMO I believe its the line in the sand that shouldn't be crossed. Yes, I am against corruption, but crossing the line is the wrong way of going about changing it. Red, and his local 705 has the right way of changing the union for the better. Thats how it should be done. It maintains a sense of unity among the members. When crossing you have broken the unity. Again, Yes we have problems and differences, but we should work them out on our side of the fence/line. In closing. Have you ever watched the movie "Scarface" with Al Pacino. In one scene he goes home to his younger sister and mothers house. AL was just starting to reap the rewards of being a mobster. His mother was a very Moral person. Al tried to give his mother some cash, but she through it back at him and told him to leave. She also might have slapped him. LOL The mother did not want to have anything to do with his dirty money. I will now write another script for the movie. Lets say the one that crossed the picket line was the mother. Strong moral convictions. Al Picino was the Teamsters and its members sacrafices in achieving the dirty money(wages and bennies). Extortion/strike. Ok, in this script, the mother would slap Pacino, call him some bad names and kick him out of the house. That would be equal to crossing the picket line. BUT, its not over as you might have noticed she keeps the cash. Hmmmm. I never said she gave back the cash he gave her. The mother is a hypocrite. I m not a very pc type of person, but thats how I feel. If you are going to cross and stand by your convictions and you want my respect this is what you should do. First, Subtract the difference of your wage from the Fedex non union delivery company and give the difference to charity. Second, Vacations, again subtract from Fedex's vacations. Donate the difference in weeks to charity. As you can see I can go on and on. If you want a change in the Teamsters do it from within. Crossing the picket line does nothing but hurt. Sorry, just my opinion. [/QUOTE]
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