Why are new contracts always last minute and beyond?

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by JL 0513, Apr 14, 2018 at 7:33 PM.

  1. JL 0513

    JL 0513 Well-Known Member

    They seem to operate like Congress with spending bills. Wait until the government shutdown occurs, then try a pass a spending bill.

    I haven't been around for many new contracts but quickly noticed that the union and company are negotiating in the final weeks of the outgoing contracts expiration date and beyond. Like the last contract, we begin the new contract not knowing what our actual current pay is in which we are later owed back pay.

    The whole thing should be finalized and voted upon at about this point on the calendar. Am I too idealistic? The money the union strips from us for 5 years and we know nothing until the old one expires?
     
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  2. HEFFERNAN

    HEFFERNAN Huge Member

    2 contracts ago, people were bitching we settled too quick, LOL
     
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  3. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    Not we. The IBT.
     
  4. DriveInDriveOut

    DriveInDriveOut This Is The Last Stop

    Strips from you? SMH .
     
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  5. cosmo1

    cosmo1 Now, a low life jack wagon, and still loving it.

    Give the newbie a break.
     
  6. DriveInDriveOut

    DriveInDriveOut This Is The Last Stop

    I guess.
    I dunno, when I hear someone complain about paying union dues and rant about government spending.... Well I can read between the lines.
     
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  7. JL 0513

    JL 0513 Well-Known Member

    You've given them $5,000 during this contract. How much have they done for you?
     
  8. East coast navy

    East coast navy Veteran

    IBT would usually start negotiating with the company early fall or sometimes as early as late spring the year before contract end date... This time negotiations didn’t start until February of the same year... Time line was different this time.
     
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  9. JL 0513

    JL 0513 Well-Known Member

    How long do you have to be at UPS to pass newbie status, 20 year's, 25?
     
  10. silenze

    silenze Lunch is the best part of the day

    It's just another tactic UPS uses. Delaying any raises saves them money. Also people are more likely to vote yes after a few months for a few dollars of back pay.
     
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  11. DriveInDriveOut

    DriveInDriveOut This Is The Last Stop

    Hmmm.
    Well at the beginning of the contract I was a seasonal driver helper making $8.50 an hour. I'll hit 100k this year, with benefits that are unmatched around here.

    So.... a lot I guess.
     
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  12. East coast navy

    East coast navy Veteran

    Some say 5. Some say 10... Some say when you retire... Who gives a sheet! The quotes usually say it all.
     
  13. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    Wow. Ain't no moss growing on you.
     
  14. DriveInDriveOut

    DriveInDriveOut This Is The Last Stop

    I'm in my prime, just ask @Mr Jingles wife.
     
  15. Mr Jingles

    Mr Jingles Rat out of a cage

    If you nail that, you are one sicko.
     
  16. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    Use it while you got it. Don't last forever. The work well always be there.
     
  17. JL 0513

    JL 0513 Well-Known Member

    While we can thank the union for where we stand, it's a tremendous amount of money they collect vs what they actually do. Negotiate a few months every 5 years is the biggest thing, while assisting some guys here and there in getting there job back and such.
     
  18. cosmo1

    cosmo1 Now, a low life jack wagon, and still loving it.

    More than 1 1/2 contracts.
     
  19. DriveInDriveOut

    DriveInDriveOut This Is The Last Stop

    I'm down with the sickness.
     
  20. DriveInDriveOut

    DriveInDriveOut This Is The Last Stop

    wrong
     
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