Why are new contracts always last minute and beyond?

[JL 0513]

They seem to operate like Congress with spending bills. Wait until the government shutdown occurs, then try a pass a spending bill.

I haven't been around for many new contracts but quickly noticed that the union and company are negotiating in the final weeks of the outgoing contracts expiration date and beyond. Like the last contract, we begin the new contract not knowing what our actual current pay is in which we are later owed back pay.

The whole thing should be finalized and voted upon at about this point on the calendar. Am I too idealistic? The money the union strips from us for 5 years and we know nothing until the old one expires?

 

[HEFFERNAN]

2 contracts ago, people were bitching we settled too quick, LOL

 

[PT Car Washer]

2 contracts ago, people were bitching we settled too quick, LOL

Not we. The IBT.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

They seem to operate like Congress with spending bills.

The money the union strips from us for 5 years and we know nothing until the old one expires?

Strips from you? SMH .

 

[cosmo1]

2 contracts ago, people were bitching we settled too quick, LOL

Strips from you? SMH .

Give the newbie a break.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

Give the newbie a break.

I guess.
I dunno, when I hear someone complain about paying union dues and rant about government spending.... Well I can read between the lines.

 

[JL 0513]

Strips from you? SMH .

You've given them $5,000 during this contract. How much have they done for you?

 

[East coast navy]

They seem to operate like Congress with spending bills. Wait until the government shutdown occurs, then try a pass a spending bill.

I haven't been around for many new contracts but quickly noticed that the union and company are negotiating in the final weeks of the outgoing contracts expiration date and beyond. Like the last contract, we begin the new contract not knowing what our actual current pay is in which we are later owed back pay.

The whole thing should be finalized and voted upon at about this point on the calendar. Am I too idealistic? The money the union strips from us for 5 years and we know nothing until the old one expires?

IBT would usually start negotiating with the company early fall or sometimes as early as late spring the year before contract end date... This time negotiations didn’t start until February of the same year... Time line was different this time.

 

[JL 0513]

Give the newbie a break.

How long do you have to be at UPS to pass newbie status, 20 year's, 25?

 

[silenze]

It's just another tactic UPS uses. Delaying any raises saves them money. Also people are more likely to vote yes after a few months for a few dollars of back pay.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

You've given them $5,000 during this contract. How much have they done for you?

Hmmm.
Well at the beginning of the contract I was a seasonal driver helper making $8.50 an hour. I'll hit 100k this year, with benefits that are unmatched around here.

So.... a lot I guess.

 

[East coast navy]

How long do you have to be at UPS to pass newbie status, 20 year's, 25?

Some say 5. Some say 10... Some say when you retire... Who gives a sheet! The quotes usually say it all.

 

[PT Car Washer]

Hmmm.
Well at the beginning of the contract I was a seasonal driver helper making $8.50 an hour. I'll hit 100k this year, with benefits that are unmatched around here.

So.... a lot I guess.

Wow. Ain't no moss growing on you.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

Wow. Ain't no moss growing on you.

I'm in my prime, just ask @Mr Jingles wife.

 

[Old Man Jingles]

I'm in my prime, just ask @Mr Jingles wife.

If you nail that, you are one sicko.

 

[PT Car Washer]

I'm in my prime, just ask @Mr Jingles wife.

Use it while you got it. Don't last forever. The work well always be there.

 

[JL 0513]

Hmmm.
Well at the beginning of the contract I was a seasonal driver helper making $8.50 an hour. I'll hit 100k this year, with benefits that are unmatched around here.

So.... a lot I guess.

While we can thank the union for where we stand, it's a tremendous amount of money they collect vs what they actually do. Negotiate a few months every 5 years is the biggest thing, while assisting some guys here and there in getting there job back and such.

 

[cosmo1]

How long do you have to be at UPS to pass newbie status, 20 year's, 25?

More than 1 1/2 contracts.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

If you nail that, you are one sicko.

I'm down with the sickness.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

While we can thank the union for where we stand, it's a tremendous amount of money they collect vs what they actually do. Negotiate a few months every 5 years is the biggest thing, while assisting some guys here and there in getting there job back and such.

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