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<blockquote data-quote="satellitedriver" data-source="post: 468458" data-attributes="member: 1664"><p>Quote:</p><p> Originally Posted by <strong>satellitedriver</strong></p><p><em>Blaming the company for going to public stock is a weak argument.</em></p><p><em><span style="color: Sienna">I see it as a very valid argument, simply because the company started the micro-managing almost immediately following the event.</span></em></p><p><em><span style="color: Sienna"><span style="color: DarkGreen">They were doing it in 1986, when I came to UPS.</span></span></em></p><p><em><span style="color: Sienna"><span style="color: DarkGreen">One of the reasons I turned down the offer to go into management.</span></span></em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em><span style="color: Sienna">I never heard some of the crap about "business decissions", " Bottom line", and other buzz words that apply to "taking care of the investors" that we all hear now.</span></em></p><p><em><span style="color: Sienna"><span style="color: DarkGreen">Pray tell, where did you hear these terms expressed in any official form?</span></span></em></p><p><em><span style="color: Sienna"><span style="color: DarkGreen">I have never heard, or read, any of this kind of talk (besides locker room talk) in my 22 yrs as a driver, much less as a stock owner.</span></span></em></p><p><em><span style="color: Sienna">Many who complain do not even own UPS stock.</span></em></p><p><em><span style="color: DarkGreen">I stand by this comment.</span></em></p><p><em>Expecting the union to solve all ills holds even less weight.</em></p><p><em><span style="color: Sienna">And that's relevant because????</span></em></p><p><em><span style="color: DarkGreen">Reference the posts, before my comment.</span></em></p><p><em>To me, this is just a whine thread.</em></p><p><em><span style="color: Sienna"> As are the majority of the threads on this board.</span></em></p><p><em><span style="color: Sienna"><span style="color: DarkGreen">Agreed.</span></span></em></p><p> <em>All employees have a simple choice.</em></p><p><em>Leave or stay.</em></p><p><em><span style="color: Sienna">Not as simple as one might think, because it is a </span></em></p><p><em>Tough choice. <span style="color: Sienna">,as you say.</span></em></p><p><em><span style="color: DarkGreen">Simple choice,but a tough one to make.</span></em></p><p><em><span style="color: DarkGreen"></span></em></p><p> <em></em></p><p><em>Many, and I mean many, things could be improved to make this company much more profitable, but, simple infighting bitchin' means squat.</em></p><p><em><span style="color: Sienna"> There should be a balance between the infighting and fairness to all involved.</span></em></p><p><em><span style="color: Sienna"><span style="color: DarkGreen">Who lied to you and made you think there is fairness in this world?</span></span></em></p><p> <em>Reverse the initial hate question,of this thread, and ask yourself a simple question. </em></p><p><em><strong>"Why do you chose to stay employed at UPS?"</strong></em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em><span style="color: Sienna">I stay because I'm 58 years old, with a body that has been worn out at UPS, driving worthless trucks many many miles, because at my age it's a little too late to begin a new career. There isn't a place where I could make the kind of money I make with the bennies I receive, where I could possibly get a retirement of any kind. All these benefits are courtesy of the negotiations of the union that represents us, not out of the goodness of our CEO's heart. Through the years I figured I could make it to retirement without much problem, but no, there have been many problems. Right now I have an injury received while preforming a standard work method correctly. Just one more chink in the armor.My center manager (who I like personally) tried his best to get me to say that I "might" have injured myself at home and didn't realize it, just to save another loss time injury on the books. Everyday I hear a sup trying to intimidate some poor rookie, just to get them to deliver a few more packages everyday (in less time). I see drivers leave the building in PCs that should have been scrapped 50,000 miles ago, but UPS has to get their moneys worth, so they are driven till there is nothing left to repair. We have to wear crap uniforms that do not fit correctly, fall apart on the first few times they are worn because they are a couple of bucks cheaper than the previous clothes. Regardless of the great day we had on Monday, if Tuesday isn't so good we get hammered and accused of cheating the company. We have drivers delivering 23 SPORH on a 50% business route and the sups just add more work on the guy.</span></em></p><p><em><span style="color: Sienna">Ya know they say **** rolls down hill, and it's true. So does negitivity.</span></em></p><p><em><span style="color: Sienna"><span style="color: DarkGreen">An honest answer to my question.</span></span></em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em></em></p><p> </p><p>The original question,that was posed, infers that UPS is single monolith that hates it's employees.</p><p>We are nothing but a corporate structure comprised of employees.</p><p>The, them and us, argument fades when the symbiotic relationship of management to hourly reduces it's premise to base emotions.</p><p>The decision to go public was never in the hourlies hands.</p><p>So, we can only deal with the aftermath.</p><p>I still stand with my original premise.</p><p>I have a choice to stay or leave, if I do not like the way I am treated.</p><p>We all base our economic needs, wants and hopes on being employed.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="satellitedriver, post: 468458, member: 1664"] Quote: Originally Posted by [B]satellitedriver[/B] [I]Blaming the company for going to public stock is a weak argument. [COLOR=Sienna]I see it as a very valid argument, simply because the company started the micro-managing almost immediately following the event. [COLOR=DarkGreen]They were doing it in 1986, when I came to UPS.[/COLOR][/COLOR] [COLOR=Sienna][COLOR=DarkGreen]One of the reasons I turned down the offer to go into management.[/COLOR][/COLOR] [COLOR=Sienna][COLOR=DarkGreen][/COLOR][/COLOR] [COLOR=Sienna]I never heard some of the crap about "business decissions", " Bottom line", and other buzz words that apply to "taking care of the investors" that we all hear now. [COLOR=DarkGreen]Pray tell, where did you hear these terms expressed in any official form?[/COLOR][/COLOR] [COLOR=Sienna][COLOR=DarkGreen]I have never heard, or read, any of this kind of talk (besides locker room talk) in my 22 yrs as a driver, much less as a stock owner.[/COLOR][/COLOR] [COLOR=Sienna]Many who complain do not even own UPS stock.[/COLOR] [COLOR=DarkGreen]I stand by this comment.[/COLOR] Expecting the union to solve all ills holds even less weight. [COLOR=Sienna]And that's relevant because????[/COLOR] [COLOR=DarkGreen]Reference the posts, before my comment.[/COLOR] To me, this is just a whine thread. [COLOR=Sienna] As are the majority of the threads on this board. [COLOR=DarkGreen]Agreed.[/COLOR][/COLOR] All employees have a simple choice. Leave or stay. [COLOR=Sienna]Not as simple as one might think, because it is a [/COLOR] Tough choice. [COLOR=Sienna],as you say.[/COLOR] [COLOR=DarkGreen]Simple choice,but a tough one to make. [/COLOR] Many, and I mean many, things could be improved to make this company much more profitable, but, simple infighting bitchin' means squat. [COLOR=Sienna] There should be a balance between the infighting and fairness to all involved. [COLOR=DarkGreen]Who lied to you and made you think there is fairness in this world?[/COLOR][/COLOR] Reverse the initial hate question,of this thread, and ask yourself a simple question. [B]"Why do you chose to stay employed at UPS?"[/B] [COLOR=Sienna]I stay because I'm 58 years old, with a body that has been worn out at UPS, driving worthless trucks many many miles, because at my age it's a little too late to begin a new career. There isn't a place where I could make the kind of money I make with the bennies I receive, where I could possibly get a retirement of any kind. All these benefits are courtesy of the negotiations of the union that represents us, not out of the goodness of our CEO's heart. Through the years I figured I could make it to retirement without much problem, but no, there have been many problems. Right now I have an injury received while preforming a standard work method correctly. Just one more chink in the armor.My center manager (who I like personally) tried his best to get me to say that I "might" have injured myself at home and didn't realize it, just to save another loss time injury on the books. Everyday I hear a sup trying to intimidate some poor rookie, just to get them to deliver a few more packages everyday (in less time). I see drivers leave the building in PCs that should have been scrapped 50,000 miles ago, but UPS has to get their moneys worth, so they are driven till there is nothing left to repair. We have to wear crap uniforms that do not fit correctly, fall apart on the first few times they are worn because they are a couple of bucks cheaper than the previous clothes. Regardless of the great day we had on Monday, if Tuesday isn't so good we get hammered and accused of cheating the company. We have drivers delivering 23 SPORH on a 50% business route and the sups just add more work on the guy. Ya know they say **** rolls down hill, and it's true. So does negitivity. [COLOR=DarkGreen]An honest answer to my question.[/COLOR][/COLOR] [COLOR=Sienna][COLOR=DarkGreen][/COLOR][/COLOR] [COLOR=Sienna][/COLOR][/I] The original question,that was posed, infers that UPS is single monolith that hates it's employees. We are nothing but a corporate structure comprised of employees. The, them and us, argument fades when the symbiotic relationship of management to hourly reduces it's premise to base emotions. The decision to go public was never in the hourlies hands. So, we can only deal with the aftermath. I still stand with my original premise. I have a choice to stay or leave, if I do not like the way I am treated. We all base our economic needs, wants and hopes on being employed. [/QUOTE]
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