Why doesn't UPS use a foremen type position?

[OptimusPrime]

He's not a BA or steward, but a quasi management type position with real world experience. Lots of labor Unions use them. Would this just make things too smooth? Wouldn't cost that much, in labor unions they typically make a couple bucks more an hour, but their knowledge base more than pays for that.

 

[DS]

OP,(the OP) ,huh?
A quasi sup? Say it ain't so.

 

[UPSGUY72]

He's not a BA or steward, but a quasi management type position with real world experience. Lots of labor Unions use them. Would this just make things too smooth? Wouldn't cost that much, in labor unions they typically make a couple bucks more an hour, but their knowledge base more than pays for that.

UPS has them they are called ORS.

 

[kingOFchester]

UPS has them they are called ORS.

Minus the couple bucks more an hour pay and knowledge base as OP mentioned.

 

[Johney]

Didn't they try that once? It was called "Lead Driver"

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

You want to add yet another layer of management? What would this person's responsibilities include?

 

[104Feeder]

Just a hunch, but probably listen to someone say "GO #$%& YOURSELF" a lot.

 

[rod]

Lead driver got 10 cents more an hour at my center.

 

[Johney]

Lead driver got 10 cents more an hour at my center.

I think that's what it was here also. I just remember it didn't last long.

 

[MinnesotaBrown]

And how would this quasi-sup be chosen? Seniority, years of safe driving, etc?

 

[BMWMC]

Just another layer of management to sheet on the rest of the real workers.

If you ain't carrying cardboard then I'm carrying you.

 

[Lineandinitial]

"real workers"??? Ha ha Ha. The hired help!

 

[washington57]

"real workers"??? Ha ha Ha. The hired help!

Management is the hired help. They coordinate operations and help make plans. The real workers literally do the heavy lifting. Union workers make retirement much more often per capita than management, thats for sure.

 

[Anonymous 10]

I'm not a steward I'm a baby sitter. Next time I go on vacation my phone will be off.

 

[UPSGUY72]

Didn't they try that once? It was called "Lead Driver"

Are lead drivers didn't do anything but collect more pay.

 

[UPSGUY72]

Just another layer of management to sheet on the rest of the real workers.

If you ain't carrying cardboard then I'm carrying you.

Bingo.

 

[Johney]

Our lead drivers didn't do anything but collect more pay.

I don't think we even got past the training process before it got dumped.

 

[PT Stewie]

We actually had a union foreman or whatever full time article 22 did not do anything but agrivate everyone take up space and hours he is gone now and the whole crew is much happier.Good ridence !