Why doesn't UPS use a foremen type position?

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by OptimusPrime, Nov 19, 2012.

  1. OptimusPrime

    OptimusPrime Active Member

    He's not a BA or steward, but a quasi management type position with real world experience. Lots of labor Unions use them. Would this just make things too smooth? Wouldn't cost that much, in labor unions they typically make a couple bucks more an hour, but their knowledge base more than pays for that.
  2. DS

    DS Fenderbender

    OP,(the OP) :),huh?
    A quasi sup? Say it ain't so.
  3. UPSGUY72

    UPSGUY72 Well-Known Member

    UPS has them they are called ORS.
  4. kingOFchester

    kingOFchester Well-Known Member

    Minus the couple bucks more an hour pay and knowledge base as OP mentioned.
  5. Johney

    Johney Well-Known Member

    Didn't they try that once? It was called "Lead Driver"
  6. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    You want to add yet another layer of management? What would this person's responsibilities include?
  7. 104Feeder

    104Feeder Phoenix Feeder

    Just a hunch, but probably listen to someone say "GO #$%& YOURSELF" a lot.
  8. rod

    rod retired and happy

    Lead driver got 10 cents more an hour at my center.
  9. Johney

    Johney Well-Known Member

    I think that's what it was here also. I just remember it didn't last long.
  10. And how would this quasi-sup be chosen? Seniority, years of safe driving, etc?
  11. bmwmc

    bmwmc Active Member

    Just another layer of management to sheet on the rest of the real workers.

    If you ain't carrying cardboard then I'm carrying you.
  12. Lineandinitial

    Lineandinitial Active Member

    "real workers"??? Ha ha Ha. The hired help!
  13. washington57

    washington57 New Member

    Management is the hired help. They coordinate operations and help make plans. The real workers literally do the heavy lifting. Union workers make retirement much more often per capita than management, thats for sure.
  14. Anonymous 10

    Anonymous 10 Guest

    I'm not a steward I'm a baby sitter. Next time I go on vacation my phone will be off.
  15. UPSGUY72

    UPSGUY72 Well-Known Member

    Are lead drivers didn't do anything but collect more pay.
  16. UPSGUY72

    UPSGUY72 Well-Known Member

  17. Johney

    Johney Well-Known Member

    I don't think we even got past the training process before it got dumped.
  18. PT Stewie

    PT Stewie "Big Fella"

    We actually had a union foreman or whatever full time article 22 did not do anything but agrivate everyone take up space and hours he is gone now and the whole crew is much happier.Good ridence !