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<blockquote data-quote="refineryworker05" data-source="post: 2900959" data-attributes="member: 66082">No offense but you aren&#039;t really responding to my points. It is my contention that this bs about the left means nothing to republicans/conservatives in terms of policies. As I pointed out conservatives/republicans have zero problems, with Trump&#039;s many, many &quot;left&quot; positions. For conservatives/republicans the economy is irrelevant in their decisions.&nbsp; Again it is a meaningless talking point.&nbsp; The economy was fantastic, we had a budget surplus under Bill Clinton and conservatives/republicans hated him because he was immoral, which is now proven as yet another lie as conservatives embrace Trump&#039;s immorality. What they care about is who. As in do they believe this person is one of them and represents them. Do they believe this person is going to hurt the Americans they don&#039;t like.&nbsp;&nbsp; For conservative voters that&#039;s all that matters. Most republican/conservatives voters don&#039;t care about tax cuts for the rich or corporate tax cuts for huge corporations or repealing the estate tax or increasing military spending, etc. most conservatives and republicans don&#039;t care about most of the actual republican legislative agenda.It is meaningless to them. That&#039;s why they are fully supporting Trump a man who clearly doesn&#039;t believe anything either. What Trump did show them is that he hates the same people they hate and he isn&#039;t afraid to say that stuff out loud. That&#039;s the connection. Trump has been famous since I was a kid. I remember seeing him on a tv show called the lifestyles of the rich and famous back in the 1980&#039;s. In all that time in the spot light, Trump has never been known or cited as helping anyone. No one comes forward and says oh Trump is so generous and so helpful. So this lie that people believed trump was going to help them and American workers ...lolWhat they believed is that Trump and republican policies will target, exclude, hurt those other Americans they perceive as the real problem. The rest is just a mirage. Outside of the plutocratic economic policies, elected conservatives don&#039;t actually believe any of the things they pretend to care about and their support for Trump proves this.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="refineryworker05, post: 2900959, member: 66082"] No offense but you aren't really responding to my points. It is my contention that this bs about the left means nothing to republicans/conservatives in terms of policies. As I pointed out conservatives/republicans have zero problems, with Trump's many, many "left" positions. For conservatives/republicans the economy is irrelevant in their decisions. Again it is a meaningless talking point. The economy was fantastic, we had a budget surplus under Bill Clinton and conservatives/republicans hated him because he was immoral, which is now proven as yet another lie as conservatives embrace Trump's immorality. What they care about is who. As in do they believe this person is one of them and represents them. Do they believe this person is going to hurt the Americans they don't like. For conservative voters that's all that matters. Most republican/conservatives voters don't care about tax cuts for the rich or corporate tax cuts for huge corporations or repealing the estate tax or increasing military spending, etc. most conservatives and republicans don't care about most of the actual republican legislative agenda. It is meaningless to them. That's why they are fully supporting Trump a man who clearly doesn't believe anything either. What Trump did show them is that he hates the same people they hate and he isn't afraid to say that stuff out loud. That's the connection. Trump has been famous since I was a kid. I remember seeing him on a tv show called the lifestyles of the rich and famous back in the 1980's. In all that time in the spot light, Trump has never been known or cited as helping anyone. No one comes forward and says oh Trump is so generous and so helpful. So this lie that people believed trump was going to help them and American workers ...lol What they believed is that Trump and republican policies will target, exclude, hurt those other Americans they perceive as the real problem. The rest is just a mirage. Outside of the plutocratic economic policies, elected conservatives don't actually believe any of the things they pretend to care about and their support for Trump proves this. [/QUOTE]

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