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<blockquote data-quote="refineryworker05" data-source="post: 2906951" data-attributes="member: 66082">Finally, I have to address one more thing, the idea that helping the poor is driving up budget deficits or the national debt.In fact, the poor are helped the least by our government and again they act like it by not voting, not even paying attention to politics for the most part.They get very little in the way of government services of the kind of services are identified as aid to the poor.The largest government programs, like SS, Medicare, Medicaid, and the military mostly goes to middle class to rich Americans and the money ends up in the pockets of hospitals and doctors defense contractors, pharmaceutical companies and various other industries.Those 4 government programs plus paying interest on the national debt are about 70%-75% of the 4.1trillion federal budget.The programs we usually associate with the poor like Tanf/welfare(16.5 billion per year), housing voucher/section 8(47billion per year, food stamps(71billion per year, and WIC(6.6billion) make up less than 4% of federal spending.So the whole oh all this spending on the poor is driving up the national debt has no basis in reality.And is yet another thing conservatives say they care about but don&#039;t.The largest federal programs, all the military spending, all the social security spending, all the medicare and Medicaid spending are very popular with conservatives.But the tiniest programs in relative terms to the federal budget get the most attention from conservatives.Again, this attention from conservatives has nothing to do with the national debt or budget deficits because they&#039;d focus on the largest government programs first not ones that don&#039;t total 4% of the budget, this attention is because of who conservatives perceive to be benefitting from those programs and because they don&#039;t want their government to help those Americans.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="refineryworker05, post: 2906951, member: 66082"] Finally, I have to address one more thing, the idea that helping the poor is driving up budget deficits or the national debt. In fact, the poor are helped the least by our government and again they act like it by not voting, not even paying attention to politics for the most part. They get very little in the way of government services of the kind of services are identified as aid to the poor. The largest government programs, like SS, Medicare, Medicaid, and the military mostly goes to middle class to rich Americans and the money ends up in the pockets of hospitals and doctors defense contractors, pharmaceutical companies and various other industries. Those 4 government programs plus paying interest on the national debt are about 70%-75% of the 4.1trillion federal budget. The programs we usually associate with the poor like Tanf/welfare(16.5 billion per year), housing voucher/section 8(47billion per year, food stamps(71billion per year, and WIC(6.6billion) make up less than 4% of federal spending. So the whole oh all this spending on the poor is driving up the national debt has no basis in reality. And is yet another thing conservatives say they care about but don't. The largest federal programs, all the military spending, all the social security spending, all the medicare and Medicaid spending are very popular with conservatives. But the tiniest programs in relative terms to the federal budget get the most attention from conservatives. Again, this attention from conservatives has nothing to do with the national debt or budget deficits because they'd focus on the largest government programs first not ones that don't total 4% of the budget, this attention is because of who conservatives perceive to be benefitting from those programs and because they don't want their government to help those Americans. [/QUOTE]

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