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<blockquote data-quote="littlebrother" data-source="post: 144797" data-attributes="member: 7701"><p>any, the pension for UPS Parcel employees is why the Apwa is the right choice? You know I find it funny that the guy's supporting the Apwa can't find anything solidly positive with this not-yet organization so the only way to make them look good is to pick apart the Teamsters. </p><p></p><p>any, what if the two Feeder drivers that are trying to start this new union along with thier hired union busting law firm, are in fact company sponsored? What if they were approached to decertify the IBT by the company? Is this a greatly outlandish story telling attempt on my part? Or could it be something to think about?</p><p></p><p>Here's what I think, how can an organization like the Apwa promise or attempt to promise the numbers they state on the website without any membership? I mean, what if they don't get 1/4 of the employees to join that they are pitching to the insurance company for meds? Are they just going to give them the rate quoted if they come up short?</p><p></p><p>Pension. If you are that concerned with your pension and it's all hinging on this why not save you own money for your retirement instead of relying on someone else for retirement? I've been saving since I was a teen and apart of what I used to put myself through school, I've never touched it. It is a substantial amount, and along with my 401k over the years and years to come by the time I retire I will have more than enough to last my ending years, depending on cost of living at the time. A pension will be just another plus, but I'm definitely not relying on it.</p><p></p><p>How about pay and work rules? What experience does the Apwa have in negotiating a labor contract? Will the Overnite/ Motor Cargo side be on the same contract as Parcel or will they be lumped in together? If lumped in together the UPSF employees will not have a voice, well let's put it this way, 15,000 to 200,000 is no contest. As great as the Parcel side seems as far as pay and benefits, the work rules differ and might not be in UPSF employee's best interests'. There is a lot of uncovered territory with the Apwa, they might be promising a kingdom on their website and at meetings but aside from the Pension funding which is questionable they haven't got much.In my opinion. </p><p></p><p>Some of the Overnite employees will vote anything in but the Teamsters because of past dealings, that is your prerogative, but if I were you I would look into it a little deeper and not just pension deep.</p><p></p><p>Good luck which ever way you choose.</p><p></p><p>littlebrother</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="littlebrother, post: 144797, member: 7701"] any, the pension for UPS Parcel employees is why the Apwa is the right choice? You know I find it funny that the guy's supporting the Apwa can't find anything solidly positive with this not-yet organization so the only way to make them look good is to pick apart the Teamsters. any, what if the two Feeder drivers that are trying to start this new union along with thier hired union busting law firm, are in fact company sponsored? What if they were approached to decertify the IBT by the company? Is this a greatly outlandish story telling attempt on my part? Or could it be something to think about? Here's what I think, how can an organization like the Apwa promise or attempt to promise the numbers they state on the website without any membership? I mean, what if they don't get 1/4 of the employees to join that they are pitching to the insurance company for meds? Are they just going to give them the rate quoted if they come up short? Pension. If you are that concerned with your pension and it's all hinging on this why not save you own money for your retirement instead of relying on someone else for retirement? I've been saving since I was a teen and apart of what I used to put myself through school, I've never touched it. It is a substantial amount, and along with my 401k over the years and years to come by the time I retire I will have more than enough to last my ending years, depending on cost of living at the time. A pension will be just another plus, but I'm definitely not relying on it. How about pay and work rules? What experience does the Apwa have in negotiating a labor contract? Will the Overnite/ Motor Cargo side be on the same contract as Parcel or will they be lumped in together? If lumped in together the UPSF employees will not have a voice, well let's put it this way, 15,000 to 200,000 is no contest. As great as the Parcel side seems as far as pay and benefits, the work rules differ and might not be in UPSF employee's best interests'. There is a lot of uncovered territory with the Apwa, they might be promising a kingdom on their website and at meetings but aside from the Pension funding which is questionable they haven't got much.In my opinion. Some of the Overnite employees will vote anything in but the Teamsters because of past dealings, that is your prerogative, but if I were you I would look into it a little deeper and not just pension deep. Good luck which ever way you choose. littlebrother [/QUOTE]
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