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<blockquote data-quote="brett636" data-source="post: 570535" data-attributes="member: 249"><p>Call it what you will, but I call it freedom. Before this job I had to rely on others to provide the basic necessities of life. I now own my own shelter, pay for my own food, and save for my own future. I have made choices that enable me to do more with my life than I could in prior years, and thanks to my worker status I have the means to make those sort of choices. Choice is a funny thing because in a free society they can include good and bad choices. I know people who make twice as much as I do and still can't manage to survive on their own. While I have made it making half of what I earn today. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Not exactly. Working is something every living thing has to do. A bear which chooses not to hunt will starve, just as a human who chooses not to work will. The worker just wants a honest days pay for an honest days work. The employer just desires profit at the end of the day so he/she can eat as well. Nobody is exploited as no employee or employer are truly bound to one another. </p><p></p><p>This is so elementary I find it hard to believe I have to explain this to you. The $1000 worth of candy bars you make does not necessarily mean you are worth $1000 for that day. Assuming that $1000 is the retail value of the candy bars you have to take into consideration the cost of the building you work in, the machines you work with, the resources(electricity, water, materials) needed to make the candy bar, the other workers involved in making that candy bar(you only made them, you did not package, ship, drive, or stock them), the cost of managing the entire factory, and finally the taxes owed at whatever levels of governments that may have an interest in the factory's output. Lets not forget the businessman who put all this together has to make a profit at the end of the day or he cannot justify employing you to begin with. </p><p> </p><p></p><p>This is your assumption that every wealthy individual and family made their fortunes through luck. I can tell you most millionaires in this country are self made, and few are born into wealth. The difference between you and them is the drive to do so. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Just as the capitalist who doesn't bring the goods and services for others to purchase will starve. You, the employee is a small part in a large jigsaw puzzle put together by the capitalist you so hate. </p><p></p><p>Every worker is a capitalist. The skills and experience they have help determine what kind of success they have in the marketplace, just as the quality, availability, and necessity of the goods and or services brought to the market by the businessperson determines their success. </p><p></p><p>As a simple hub rat you have no control or choices in how the place is run. If control or choice is what you desire then I suggest you move into the ranks of management and then you will have some choice and control. As long as you stay where you are you are given work, and the work earns you a paycheck. If you think you can do it better start working towards a higher position in the company or start your own company. </p><p></p><p>Let me go on the offensive here and get down to the basic premise of what you are supporting. You support a world where everything is equal, but this is impossible because the world is not equal. You can't pay a brain surgeon the same as a trash collector because of the skills involved. Why go to school for a decade of your life only to earn the same living as someone doing the most mundane tasks in our society? A BMW costs more than a Chevrolet because of the hours of research, design, and materials used in making that BMW. That baby born in Uganda to a single mother making less than a dollar a day is unfortunate, but the more wealth created in our side of the world does make its way over to places like Uganda first through charities, then maybe through factories, and hopefully to schools improving that baby's chance at success through life. By working to make our own lives better we better the lives of others. Not just in our society, but in other countries as well. When your line of thinking is imposed on the masses nobody has the desire to achieve more because their is no reward for doing so. Desire is the basis for human achievement, and thankfully this country is one of the few on earth that encourages people to follow their desires to success through freedom. Millions of people have perished in countries where your economic models were mainstream while millions of others have succeeded where capitalism exists.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="brett636, post: 570535, member: 249"] Call it what you will, but I call it freedom. Before this job I had to rely on others to provide the basic necessities of life. I now own my own shelter, pay for my own food, and save for my own future. I have made choices that enable me to do more with my life than I could in prior years, and thanks to my worker status I have the means to make those sort of choices. Choice is a funny thing because in a free society they can include good and bad choices. I know people who make twice as much as I do and still can't manage to survive on their own. While I have made it making half of what I earn today. Not exactly. Working is something every living thing has to do. A bear which chooses not to hunt will starve, just as a human who chooses not to work will. The worker just wants a honest days pay for an honest days work. The employer just desires profit at the end of the day so he/she can eat as well. Nobody is exploited as no employee or employer are truly bound to one another. This is so elementary I find it hard to believe I have to explain this to you. The $1000 worth of candy bars you make does not necessarily mean you are worth $1000 for that day. Assuming that $1000 is the retail value of the candy bars you have to take into consideration the cost of the building you work in, the machines you work with, the resources(electricity, water, materials) needed to make the candy bar, the other workers involved in making that candy bar(you only made them, you did not package, ship, drive, or stock them), the cost of managing the entire factory, and finally the taxes owed at whatever levels of governments that may have an interest in the factory's output. Lets not forget the businessman who put all this together has to make a profit at the end of the day or he cannot justify employing you to begin with. This is your assumption that every wealthy individual and family made their fortunes through luck. I can tell you most millionaires in this country are self made, and few are born into wealth. The difference between you and them is the drive to do so. Just as the capitalist who doesn't bring the goods and services for others to purchase will starve. You, the employee is a small part in a large jigsaw puzzle put together by the capitalist you so hate. Every worker is a capitalist. The skills and experience they have help determine what kind of success they have in the marketplace, just as the quality, availability, and necessity of the goods and or services brought to the market by the businessperson determines their success. As a simple hub rat you have no control or choices in how the place is run. If control or choice is what you desire then I suggest you move into the ranks of management and then you will have some choice and control. As long as you stay where you are you are given work, and the work earns you a paycheck. If you think you can do it better start working towards a higher position in the company or start your own company. Let me go on the offensive here and get down to the basic premise of what you are supporting. You support a world where everything is equal, but this is impossible because the world is not equal. You can't pay a brain surgeon the same as a trash collector because of the skills involved. Why go to school for a decade of your life only to earn the same living as someone doing the most mundane tasks in our society? A BMW costs more than a Chevrolet because of the hours of research, design, and materials used in making that BMW. That baby born in Uganda to a single mother making less than a dollar a day is unfortunate, but the more wealth created in our side of the world does make its way over to places like Uganda first through charities, then maybe through factories, and hopefully to schools improving that baby's chance at success through life. By working to make our own lives better we better the lives of others. Not just in our society, but in other countries as well. When your line of thinking is imposed on the masses nobody has the desire to achieve more because their is no reward for doing so. Desire is the basis for human achievement, and thankfully this country is one of the few on earth that encourages people to follow their desires to success through freedom. Millions of people have perished in countries where your economic models were mainstream while millions of others have succeeded where capitalism exists. [/QUOTE]
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