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<blockquote data-quote="22LR" data-source="post: 571010" data-attributes="member: 24005"><p>You completely misread my position or purposely distort it... I'll give you the benefit of the date and say it was the former.</p><p></p><p>Nothing is wrong with luxuries. The problem is that only a handful of people enjoy them on a regular basis. The people that actually produce the luxuries aren't able to enjoy them.</p><p></p><p>We have the tools and resources to produce enough to meet the needs of everyone on earth. Why should only the idle rich have access to all the good things in life while the workers have to struggle just to get by?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Nope. Instead, a motorcycle should be produced for everyone that wants one.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>But it's hardly the "natural state of things." Inequality is caused by the private ownership of the means of production and distribution.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>For the largest part of human history people worked cooperated so that everyone would have food and shelter. That's a fact. </p><p></p><p>And no one is talking about formal equality. I never said everyone should have 1.1 pounds of meat per day or anything like that.</p><p></p><p>When workers control production we can insure that everyone has everything they need. We live in a world of material abundance. No one needs to go without. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm not sure this makes any sense. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The population as a whole should participate in production and decide what is produced. </p><p></p><p>Someone may have more of something than someone else. Perhaps you are interested in fishing, so you will have a collection of fishing equipment while I have none. But at the same time I can be interested in tennis, which would mean that I would have tennis equipment while you have none. The point is that everyone should have equal opportunity and access to the things they want and need. </p><p></p><p>Production should be organized to meet society's needs, not to make people rich. No one should starve in a world where there is more than enough food for everyone to eat. No one should go homeless in a world where houses can be constructed for all. No one should be restricted from human development because they don't have the means to access the education, tools or whatever they need to pursue it. </p><p></p><p>The people who actually produce things should have full access to the products of their labor!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="22LR, post: 571010, member: 24005"] You completely misread my position or purposely distort it... I'll give you the benefit of the date and say it was the former. Nothing is wrong with luxuries. The problem is that only a handful of people enjoy them on a regular basis. The people that actually produce the luxuries aren't able to enjoy them. We have the tools and resources to produce enough to meet the needs of everyone on earth. Why should only the idle rich have access to all the good things in life while the workers have to struggle just to get by? Nope. Instead, a motorcycle should be produced for everyone that wants one. But it's hardly the "natural state of things." Inequality is caused by the private ownership of the means of production and distribution. For the largest part of human history people worked cooperated so that everyone would have food and shelter. That's a fact. And no one is talking about formal equality. I never said everyone should have 1.1 pounds of meat per day or anything like that. When workers control production we can insure that everyone has everything they need. We live in a world of material abundance. No one needs to go without. I'm not sure this makes any sense. The population as a whole should participate in production and decide what is produced. Someone may have more of something than someone else. Perhaps you are interested in fishing, so you will have a collection of fishing equipment while I have none. But at the same time I can be interested in tennis, which would mean that I would have tennis equipment while you have none. The point is that everyone should have equal opportunity and access to the things they want and need. Production should be organized to meet society's needs, not to make people rich. No one should starve in a world where there is more than enough food for everyone to eat. No one should go homeless in a world where houses can be constructed for all. No one should be restricted from human development because they don't have the means to access the education, tools or whatever they need to pursue it. The people who actually produce things should have full access to the products of their labor! [/QUOTE]
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