working off the clock in Jacksonville. why in the world?

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by bennypablo, May 9, 2011.

  1. bennypablo

    bennypablo New Member

    what in the world is going on at ups? why do employees across the country work for free and why would the company allow this to happen? Not only are drivers sorting the airs off the clock a few brave souls are heading out on the road off the clock.
    look at this you tube video
  2. raceanoncr

    raceanoncr Well-Known Member

    Well, that certainly does it for me. I'm NEVER gonna, uh, do whatever this shows again! EVER!

    ( the way...what DOES it show?)
  3. brownmonster

    brownmonster Man of Great Wisdom

    Compelling evidence.
  4. curiousbrain

    curiousbrain Well-Known Member

    Two UPS trucks driving down the road at, according to the radio, 8:43AM - I assume the OP is implying they are off the clock.

    We have a driver where I am employed who burns out of the building at about 8:30ish, before the PCM even starts; management lets him do it because he shows up early to sort/load his own truck. Once or twice a week, I end up trying to find a driver to take a few NDA's because he has already left the building - if not, I give them to my supe who figures it out.
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  5. brownmonster

    brownmonster Man of Great Wisdom

    Pretty sad that 8:43 is considered early.
  6. bigblu 2 you

    bigblu 2 you Active Member

    once they are fired they will have a leg up in the volunteer services field. and yes you can get fired for working off the clock.
  7. raceanoncr

    raceanoncr Well-Known Member

    Yeah, I heard the radio. Does the OP know for a fact that these drivers were NOT on the clock?

    We used to have our PCM at 0835. I never got out til, at least, 0845 but some burners did blow outta there in 5-8 min.

    What does the vid show? Is there proof that they didn't start til 0845, for instance, or later. A little "splanation" would help. Or little proof.

    Sorry, carry on.
  8. UnsurePost

    UnsurePost making the unreadable unreadabler

    We have several rural routes with 7:30am start times in our center alone, around four. Plus the early AM air drivers that go out. Sometimes Iam out the door by 8:40 doing airs..
  9. scratch

    scratch Least Best Moderator Staff Member

    We are allowed to leave early if we have too many air stops. The EAM drivers are also allowed to leave early on their second trip if the Preload is down.
  10. Jones

    Jones fILE A GRIEVE! Staff Member

    We have guys with 0830 start times who come to work between 0600 and 0630 to load their own trucks for free. It's one of the craziest things I've ever seen, they are giving away around 500 hours a year which works out to close to 20 grand. There's no talking sense to them either, they're like zombies.
  11. hurricanegunner

    hurricanegunner UPSPoop

    Our center has 7:30 start times as well. These drivers may have been on the clock.
  12. tourists24

    tourists24 Well-Known Member

    Geez..... where are all these great start times coming from? lol.... we start at 9:15....... thats sucks
  13. DS

    DS Fenderbender

    We have one that does this,and after he loads and sorts his truck all nicey nice,he's the first one they offer a day off to,and unbelievably,he goes home after working two hours for nothing.He's a nice guy,but he's set in his ways,weird.
  14. Cementups

    Cementups Box Monkey

    My PCM is at 8:30 am and I am usually on the road by 8:40 so I don't see the craziness in this orignial post.
  15. soberups

    soberups Pees in the brown Koolaid

    The company's entire business model is predicated on manipulating and coercing as many employees as possible into working off of the clock.
  16. govols019

    govols019 You smell that?

    More importantly, I want to know if the air bag in my vehicle is defective.
  17. grgrcr88

    grgrcr88 No It's not green grocer!

    I guarantee if someone filed a grievance for the time it would stop. I have filed and won for both the preloader that was displaced and the driver that was working. Both got paid. Do that a few times and it will stop!!

    I have to rant here a bit. You people that see this happening and do nothing are just as guilty as the ones doing it.

    How would you like to be a preloader sent home early due to the drivers coming in and stealing money right out of their hands? Or the driver that is laid off all week because there are 5 drivers a day coming in an hour early? I certainly would be mad as hell if I didn't get to work because some jerks were working off the clock. Stop being enablers!! Stand up for the rights of your brothers and sisters that can't stand up for themselves!!!
  18. MonavieLeaker

    MonavieLeaker Bringin Teh_Lulz

    It IS kinda early for the Jax drivers.....Most of em are leaving out around 9 ish
  19. The Blackadder

    The Blackadder Are you not amused?

    We have several early EAM guys out well before 8. My building starts at 830. Why is 843 such a big deal this video is pointless without say proof that these are full time drivers leaving a building that has a start time that is 845 or later.
  20. brownmonster

    brownmonster Man of Great Wisdom

    We've had a few of those over the years. When they punch out a 4:30 they think they only worked 7.5 hours.