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<blockquote data-quote="Desert Skies" data-source="post: 1026379" data-attributes="member: 43443">Thank you for the advice and feed back,I really do appreciate it. Retirement is actually not my number one concearn,stabilty and job security are more important. One lesson I have learned in all this is that it can all go away tommorow,being associated with someone as big as UPS makes that possibility of that much less likely. During my 17 years with 162 and 305 we had a an above average pension contribution. Our last five year contract had us at 6.00 an hour up to 2080 hours a year,so there is already a decent pension waiting when I turn 65. My goal was to try and double it up by making my own contributions combined with the better than average match offered by my previous employer. Contacting my former locals is something I will look into but moving back to the northwest is not an option. I have some pretty good connections with the studio teamsters here in So Cal but film and tv production both are really slow. My research on feeders has returned mixed opinions,some say its possible to come in off the street while others say its a climb up from the bottom. With the increased scrutiny placed on drivers by CSA and insurance companies the fact is that if you dont have an excellent safety record your not moving up. Filling these feeder spots that open up may well have to be done off the street in order to find qualified drivers. There is a tremendous amount of liability associated with operating any commercial vehicle and only the very best will to remain employed in the industry.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Desert Skies, post: 1026379, member: 43443"] Thank you for the advice and feed back,I really do appreciate it. Retirement is actually not my number one concearn,stabilty and job security are more important. One lesson I have learned in all this is that it can all go away tommorow,being associated with someone as big as UPS makes that possibility of that much less likely. During my 17 years with 162 and 305 we had a an above average pension contribution. Our last five year contract had us at 6.00 an hour up to 2080 hours a year,so there is already a decent pension waiting when I turn 65. My goal was to try and double it up by making my own contributions combined with the better than average match offered by my previous employer. Contacting my former locals is something I will look into but moving back to the northwest is not an option. I have some pretty good connections with the studio teamsters here in So Cal but film and tv production both are really slow. My research on feeders has returned mixed opinions,some say its possible to come in off the street while others say its a climb up from the bottom. With the increased scrutiny placed on drivers by CSA and insurance companies the fact is that if you dont have an excellent safety record your not moving up. Filling these feeder spots that open up may well have to be done off the street in order to find qualified drivers. There is a tremendous amount of liability associated with operating any commercial vehicle and only the very best will to remain employed in the industry. [/QUOTE]

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