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<blockquote data-quote="Been In Brown Too Long" data-source="post: 5485372" data-attributes="member: 32249"><p>Well, I'll start by saying 9.5 protections didn't exist. 8 hour requests didn't exist. Abiding by max day on road regulations didn't really exist for package car drivers. My first peak driving season in 1989 I punched in at 8am and out at 11pm every day from the week prior to Thanksgiving through Christmas Eve. There was no fake pressure, it was real...at some point, you just want to go friend'n home, get some sleep, spend a minute or two with the kids. It wasn't about management pressures as you're assuming. I couldn't care less about their wishes, wants or demands.</p><p></p><p>And stop with the caving schtick. It's because of us old timers, you even have the 9.5 list, the 8hr requests, etc. Those are things WE bargained for. Stop talking about the union as if it's some separate entity. You are the union. You don't like the suspension of 8hr requests, 9.5 list or inability to take vacation, do something about it. Every contract you have the ability to make contract changes. Lobby the union to make the changes you want instead of just blaming the union, although I guess that's the easier route to take.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Been In Brown Too Long, post: 5485372, member: 32249"] Well, I'll start by saying 9.5 protections didn't exist. 8 hour requests didn't exist. Abiding by max day on road regulations didn't really exist for package car drivers. My first peak driving season in 1989 I punched in at 8am and out at 11pm every day from the week prior to Thanksgiving through Christmas Eve. There was no fake pressure, it was real...at some point, you just want to go friend'n home, get some sleep, spend a minute or two with the kids. It wasn't about management pressures as you're assuming. I couldn't care less about their wishes, wants or demands. And stop with the caving schtick. It's because of us old timers, you even have the 9.5 list, the 8hr requests, etc. Those are things WE bargained for. Stop talking about the union as if it's some separate entity. You are the union. You don't like the suspension of 8hr requests, 9.5 list or inability to take vacation, do something about it. Every contract you have the ability to make contract changes. Lobby the union to make the changes you want instead of just blaming the union, although I guess that's the easier route to take. [/QUOTE]
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