Yet Another 22.4 Question

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by SLW, Jan 17, 2020.

  1. SLW

    SLW Member

    I've been working as a Reg-Temp, but was offered a full-time 22.4 driver job now that the season's over, which I obviously took. My understanding is these positions pay less. However, my understanding is also that Reg-Temps come in at a different, higher rate of pay when becoming full-time. My question is, will my pay remain the same, drop to the starting 22.4 pay (whatever that is), or some different third thing?

    Naturally, I'll know how it plays out very soon and will update, just wanted to have some idea first and make sure I'm getting paid correctly from the get-go.

    Thanks!
     
  2. Everyone has to go through progression even when you are a Reg temp driver and go full time.
     
  3. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    What supplemental contract are you under would greatly help your chances of getting the correct answer.
     
  4. Maple Grove MN Driver

    Maple Grove MN Driver Cocaine Mang!

    Read your contract.
    All your answers are in it.
     
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  6. SLW

    SLW Member

    All the other drivers in my center I spoke to who went Reg-Temp to RPCD supposedly maintained their Reg-Temp pay rate. Of course, they all started under a different contract and are RPCD, not 22.4.

    Reading Section 41.4 in the Master now, but not making much sense of it. I don't have a copy of the Atlantic supplement at the moment.

    "Part-time employees whose rates are higher than those set forth below who bid into a full-time 22.4(b) job covered by this Section shall be paid their current inside wage rate plus the general wage increases."
    vs
    "Any part-time employee performing package car cover-type work in a Supplement, Rider or Addendum who bids into a 22.4 driver job will be treated the same as if he entered into a regular package car driver job under Article 41, Section 2 (c) for progression credit and red circle purposes"
    seem contradictory to me, but I'm dumb as hell
     
  7. It's not that simple
     
  8. SLW

    SLW Member

    True. In a previous life, I spent five years as a contracts administrator and legal assistant, and I'm still not getting this :lol: It's been awhile.
     
  9. So how long have you worked at Brown?

    And are you already a Reg temp?
     
  10. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    Download the Atlantic here
    UPS and UPS Freight Agreements, 2018 – 2023
     
  11. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    How long have you been a reg temp?
    This language says your progression will carry over.
    Screenshot_20200117-171929_Adobe Acrobat.jpg
     
  12. SLW

    SLW Member

    Hire date was late August, started driving the beginning of October.
     
  13. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    Were you a reg temp or were you technically a seasonal driver?
     
  14. SLW

    SLW Member

    Reg-Temp, not seasonal.
     
  15. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    Since you were not on the payroll before the contract I believe you'll be slotted into the 22.4 progression for the amount of time you've been a reg temp.

    Which sounds like the first year progression.
     
  16. 50¢ difference the first year



    Worst contract ever
     
  17. SLW

    SLW Member

    So I'd be getting paid ~25% less an hour than I am now for the same work, and not making up the difference until four years from now, what a great deal, lol
     
  18. Maple Grove MN Driver

    Maple Grove MN Driver Cocaine Mang!

    It actually is
     
  19. Nope
    It isn't


    Don't be a Dave
     
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  20. Maple Grove MN Driver

    Maple Grove MN Driver Cocaine Mang!

    The contract dictates how everything is handled.
    So yes it is that simple.