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<blockquote data-quote="Char" data-source="post: 261801" data-attributes="member: 10877"><p>I didn't write this to get into political debate. Perhaps I should make it clear, on scale of 1-5 I give Democrats a 1 and Republicans a 2. Neither party has the interest of the people at heart. They only care about seizing your freedoms by offering you freebies to vote for them. Our once great REPUBLIC has turned into a democracy.</p><p> </p><p>'Democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes itself, </p><p>exhausts and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not </p><p>commit suicide.' John Adams</p><p> </p><p>Under Clinton gas prices went down to $.99/gallon at one point this equals about $10-$15/barrel. </p><p> </p><p>You are correct that prices stablized, unfortunately it stabilized at an artificially low price which is why we are experienceing such dramatic increases. Government should have stayed out of it. The strategic oil reserve is for emergencies, not to score political points by artificially lowering the price.</p><p> </p><p>I don't know about your refining capacity at %4 it sounds insanely low. If refineries were operating at %4 than that would justify shut downs. Regardless, refineries today operate at %110. If you don't want politicians manipulating oil prices then don't don't give them so much power to regulate the oil industry. If you really want to lower the cost of gasoline, lift drilling and refining restrictions and eliminate the taxes. If you eliminate the high taxes on gas then you eliminate the incentive for government to keep prices high. You may be right that Bush doesn't care what the cost of oil is. But neither does any of the democrats. The more oil costs, the more the government gets in revanues to buy your votes. </p><p> </p><p>As for China and Wal Mart, you can blame both Clinton and Bush (Democrats and Republicans) for the allowing of China to dump cheap goods on American shores. But you can't blame Wal Mart for having to compete. If you go into Target and K Mart and just about any other retailer they all sell the same Chinese crap. </p><p> </p><p>As for social security. The raiding of these funds started under Lyndon Johnson during the Vietnam War. Every President afterwards continued to raid it. But please do read the Constitution and remember that a President can only spend what Congress allows them to spend. Democrats have controlled the House and Senate longer than the Republicans. This doesn't make Republicans any better than the Democrats or vice versa. And while your reading the Constitution, please tell me where it gives authority to Congress to raise funds for retirement. I'll give you hint, it would be under Article 1 Section 8. Social security was a scam when it was created. All it did was give the government more power to tax your hard earned money and spend it on others who don't deserve it and to secure power for Democrats for decades to come. If Roosevelt and Truman had listened to Patton and MacArthur The Russians and the Chinese would have been irrelevent if not free countries today. Reagan had to fight the Cold War the way he did. The big problem came when after the fall of the Soviet Union we cut all those useless defense programs and intelligence programs under Clinton that now they are a threat again. Dems said oh the peace dividend. While we were pouring more into welfare programs keeping Americans dependent the Chinese became stronger and now the Russians are rearing their ugly heads again. And make no mistake about it, It is communist Russia and China that are driving the muslim extremists. The muslims do the dirty work while the Chinese and Russians hands are seemingly clean. If you know history you would easily see this. All the fall of the Soviet Union did was give an opportunity for the communists to regroup and and change strategy. If you wish I can explain this further in another post.</p><p> </p><p>As for companies dumping their pensions, its the same problems as with social security. You can't pool everyones money together and then dole it out. Those who pay more will get less in return, those who pay less will get more in return but the bottom line is than no one will get enough. But that is the beauty of liberalism, the equal distribution of misery. Look at GM, their welfare programs for its employees is bigger than its car manufacturing/selling business. This also goes for all the other failed pension plans. A company can only pay people for so long not to work before there is not enough money to go around. Think about why pensions are no longer used. It's because they are extremely risky and bound to fail.</p><p> </p><p>As for my financial savy. It doesn't take a genious to spot good investments. Just pick companies that you like that do well. Yes I am a part timer at UPS, but like most part timers I have another full time job, and I go to college full time. You all can depend on government for you social security and medicare when you retire, and depend on UPS and teamsters when you retire <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group1/cursing.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":cursing:" title="Cursing :cursing:" data-shortname=":cursing:" /> I on the other hand do not have to depend on all those crooks for my retirement. If I get even a fraction of what they promise it won't matter to me. I have taken steps necessary to secure my future regardless of government, ups, or teamsters. The only thing thing I want from this contract is more money in my wages so I can invest more in my future based on decisions I make, and not the decisions made by a bunch of crooked politicians and crooked unions reps make for me.</p><p> </p><p>Char</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Char, post: 261801, member: 10877"] I didn't write this to get into political debate. Perhaps I should make it clear, on scale of 1-5 I give Democrats a 1 and Republicans a 2. Neither party has the interest of the people at heart. They only care about seizing your freedoms by offering you freebies to vote for them. Our once great REPUBLIC has turned into a democracy. 'Democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes itself, exhausts and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide.' John Adams Under Clinton gas prices went down to $.99/gallon at one point this equals about $10-$15/barrel. You are correct that prices stablized, unfortunately it stabilized at an artificially low price which is why we are experienceing such dramatic increases. Government should have stayed out of it. The strategic oil reserve is for emergencies, not to score political points by artificially lowering the price. I don't know about your refining capacity at %4 it sounds insanely low. If refineries were operating at %4 than that would justify shut downs. Regardless, refineries today operate at %110. If you don't want politicians manipulating oil prices then don't don't give them so much power to regulate the oil industry. If you really want to lower the cost of gasoline, lift drilling and refining restrictions and eliminate the taxes. If you eliminate the high taxes on gas then you eliminate the incentive for government to keep prices high. You may be right that Bush doesn't care what the cost of oil is. But neither does any of the democrats. The more oil costs, the more the government gets in revanues to buy your votes. As for China and Wal Mart, you can blame both Clinton and Bush (Democrats and Republicans) for the allowing of China to dump cheap goods on American shores. But you can't blame Wal Mart for having to compete. If you go into Target and K Mart and just about any other retailer they all sell the same Chinese crap. As for social security. The raiding of these funds started under Lyndon Johnson during the Vietnam War. Every President afterwards continued to raid it. But please do read the Constitution and remember that a President can only spend what Congress allows them to spend. Democrats have controlled the House and Senate longer than the Republicans. This doesn't make Republicans any better than the Democrats or vice versa. And while your reading the Constitution, please tell me where it gives authority to Congress to raise funds for retirement. I'll give you hint, it would be under Article 1 Section 8. Social security was a scam when it was created. All it did was give the government more power to tax your hard earned money and spend it on others who don't deserve it and to secure power for Democrats for decades to come. If Roosevelt and Truman had listened to Patton and MacArthur The Russians and the Chinese would have been irrelevent if not free countries today. Reagan had to fight the Cold War the way he did. The big problem came when after the fall of the Soviet Union we cut all those useless defense programs and intelligence programs under Clinton that now they are a threat again. Dems said oh the peace dividend. While we were pouring more into welfare programs keeping Americans dependent the Chinese became stronger and now the Russians are rearing their ugly heads again. And make no mistake about it, It is communist Russia and China that are driving the muslim extremists. The muslims do the dirty work while the Chinese and Russians hands are seemingly clean. If you know history you would easily see this. All the fall of the Soviet Union did was give an opportunity for the communists to regroup and and change strategy. If you wish I can explain this further in another post. As for companies dumping their pensions, its the same problems as with social security. You can't pool everyones money together and then dole it out. Those who pay more will get less in return, those who pay less will get more in return but the bottom line is than no one will get enough. But that is the beauty of liberalism, the equal distribution of misery. Look at GM, their welfare programs for its employees is bigger than its car manufacturing/selling business. This also goes for all the other failed pension plans. A company can only pay people for so long not to work before there is not enough money to go around. Think about why pensions are no longer used. It's because they are extremely risky and bound to fail. As for my financial savy. It doesn't take a genious to spot good investments. Just pick companies that you like that do well. Yes I am a part timer at UPS, but like most part timers I have another full time job, and I go to college full time. You all can depend on government for you social security and medicare when you retire, and depend on UPS and teamsters when you retire :cursing: I on the other hand do not have to depend on all those crooks for my retirement. If I get even a fraction of what they promise it won't matter to me. I have taken steps necessary to secure my future regardless of government, ups, or teamsters. The only thing thing I want from this contract is more money in my wages so I can invest more in my future based on decisions I make, and not the decisions made by a bunch of crooked politicians and crooked unions reps make for me. Char [/QUOTE]
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