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<blockquote data-quote="zubenelgenubi" data-source="post: 4354923" data-attributes="member: 63706"><p>Why would you bring up a point about a historical group of people who might have had what you consider to be one thing better than we do, when basically every other aspect of their lives was arguably worse? Then to laugh it off when I pointed it out as if I was being ridiculous. Disingenuity at it's finest right there.</p><p></p><p>I think we both know why San Fransisco is having the issues it is, and that doesn't exactly bolster your position.</p><p></p><p>I didn't start this rabbit hole, I was just giving [USER=56035]@rickyb[/USER] a hard time about his obsessiveness about what happens in the US. But I was more than happy to go down it with [USER=18708]@UnconTROLLed[/USER].</p><p></p><p>The first step in making conditions for workers better is to have the clearest understanding of their problems, and the causes thereof, as possible. I can't speak to all of the issues workers face in the US, let alone abroad. But arguing about what we do understand can help us gain a better understanding of the views of others, and maybe, just maybe, help us be better equipped to make better decisions.</p><p></p><p>That is why I like to argue, not to prove that I know everything, which I freely admit I do not, but to try and pry nuggets of wisdom from the clutching grasp of others. I appreciate your input because we align in some ways, and not in others, and you never seem to take the conversation personally. I'd gladly cross swords with you any day, metaphorically speaking.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="zubenelgenubi, post: 4354923, member: 63706"] Why would you bring up a point about a historical group of people who might have had what you consider to be one thing better than we do, when basically every other aspect of their lives was arguably worse? Then to laugh it off when I pointed it out as if I was being ridiculous. Disingenuity at it's finest right there. I think we both know why San Fransisco is having the issues it is, and that doesn't exactly bolster your position. I didn't start this rabbit hole, I was just giving [USER=56035]@rickyb[/USER] a hard time about his obsessiveness about what happens in the US. But I was more than happy to go down it with [USER=18708]@UnconTROLLed[/USER]. The first step in making conditions for workers better is to have the clearest understanding of their problems, and the causes thereof, as possible. I can't speak to all of the issues workers face in the US, let alone abroad. But arguing about what we do understand can help us gain a better understanding of the views of others, and maybe, just maybe, help us be better equipped to make better decisions. That is why I like to argue, not to prove that I know everything, which I freely admit I do not, but to try and pry nuggets of wisdom from the clutching grasp of others. I appreciate your input because we align in some ways, and not in others, and you never seem to take the conversation personally. I'd gladly cross swords with you any day, metaphorically speaking. [/QUOTE]
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