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<blockquote data-quote="zubenelgenubi" data-source="post: 4357677" data-attributes="member: 63706"><p>I'm not sure why you think the "system" is inhuman. It wouldn't exist if it didn't fill our needs, it was created by humans, and humans have come up with technologies and rules, let's say, to improve the efficiency of the system, or overcome the challanges created by changing conditions. Maybe the problem isn't that the system is inhuman, but that it is all too human, and can certainly be a reflection of the darker aspects of human nature. </p><p></p><p>The "system", whether you call it government, capitalism, wage labor, etc, is simply a word to encapsulate a particular type of human relationship. None of those systems exist apart from the humans involving themselves in it. Saying that we are dependent on a system is the same as saying that we are dependent on each other, which is both absolutely true, and absolutely terrifying. </p><p></p><p>As civilization has evolved, individuals have had to become specialized to, perhaps, an unnatural degree, because the exploitation of resources has to become more and more efficient. It simply takes too long to become proficient at any one thing for any one person to be able to hope to master more than a few crafts. It is a natural function of our limitations to rely on others to provide for the products and services we want and need. </p><p></p><p>You can lessen that dependence by continuing to learn more, or learn to live with less. We have as much control over the system as we have over other people, which is why using the government to force people to act a certain way seems so attractive, but it generally ends in disaster. The only part of the system we have control over is ourselves. To fix the system we must take responsibility for improving ourselves. The fact that we are free to do this is a great thing, not everyone throughout history, or even alive today, has or had that freedom. It's not easy, but it is that simple.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="zubenelgenubi, post: 4357677, member: 63706"] I'm not sure why you think the "system" is inhuman. It wouldn't exist if it didn't fill our needs, it was created by humans, and humans have come up with technologies and rules, let's say, to improve the efficiency of the system, or overcome the challanges created by changing conditions. Maybe the problem isn't that the system is inhuman, but that it is all too human, and can certainly be a reflection of the darker aspects of human nature. The "system", whether you call it government, capitalism, wage labor, etc, is simply a word to encapsulate a particular type of human relationship. None of those systems exist apart from the humans involving themselves in it. Saying that we are dependent on a system is the same as saying that we are dependent on each other, which is both absolutely true, and absolutely terrifying. As civilization has evolved, individuals have had to become specialized to, perhaps, an unnatural degree, because the exploitation of resources has to become more and more efficient. It simply takes too long to become proficient at any one thing for any one person to be able to hope to master more than a few crafts. It is a natural function of our limitations to rely on others to provide for the products and services we want and need. You can lessen that dependence by continuing to learn more, or learn to live with less. We have as much control over the system as we have over other people, which is why using the government to force people to act a certain way seems so attractive, but it generally ends in disaster. The only part of the system we have control over is ourselves. To fix the system we must take responsibility for improving ourselves. The fact that we are free to do this is a great thing, not everyone throughout history, or even alive today, has or had that freedom. It's not easy, but it is that simple. [/QUOTE]
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