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"You guys need to get a union!"
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<blockquote data-quote="zubenelgenubi" data-source="post: 4363645" data-attributes="member: 63706"><p>You seek a new way of being, but making it happen is out of your control? That sounds self-defeating. Do you even have an idea what this new way would look like?</p><p></p><p>Where you seem to see yourself as a victim of circumstance, I see myself as a beneficiary of opportunity. I don't have to spend hours every day obtaining and purifying my own water. I don't have to rely on my own pitiful ability to grow food. Those two things right there make me more free than most people who ever lived. But it goes on. We can get just about anything we want, just about whenever we want. It's a fantastic time to be alive. We are literally limited by our own imaginations, and our willingness to put in the effort to achieve. </p><p></p><p>Whatever system we live under, lest we choose to live in solitude, will necessarily be obligative to some degree or another. There's just no way around it. I would prefer to live in relationship with my fellow humans in such a way as we all have as much freedom to choose the level of obligation we will tolerate, what specific obligations we will accept, and how we will meet those obligations. As long as we live and interact with other people, that is the closest to true, individual freedom we can hope for. But I am always willing to entertain alternatives.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="zubenelgenubi, post: 4363645, member: 63706"] You seek a new way of being, but making it happen is out of your control? That sounds self-defeating. Do you even have an idea what this new way would look like? Where you seem to see yourself as a victim of circumstance, I see myself as a beneficiary of opportunity. I don't have to spend hours every day obtaining and purifying my own water. I don't have to rely on my own pitiful ability to grow food. Those two things right there make me more free than most people who ever lived. But it goes on. We can get just about anything we want, just about whenever we want. It's a fantastic time to be alive. We are literally limited by our own imaginations, and our willingness to put in the effort to achieve. Whatever system we live under, lest we choose to live in solitude, will necessarily be obligative to some degree or another. There's just no way around it. I would prefer to live in relationship with my fellow humans in such a way as we all have as much freedom to choose the level of obligation we will tolerate, what specific obligations we will accept, and how we will meet those obligations. As long as we live and interact with other people, that is the closest to true, individual freedom we can hope for. But I am always willing to entertain alternatives. [/QUOTE]
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