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<blockquote data-quote="hoser" data-source="post: 216591" data-attributes="member: 6357"><p>i see how you would perceive this to be unjust, but if the contract has sections which are loopholes or is subject to a blind eye from management, that doesn't make applications that hurt the employees any more justifiable. </p><p></p><p>the contract is for the employees, and is to be upheld by management. management turning a blind eye to contract provisions that would benefit an employee is of the fault of management and does not make deliberate circumventions of the contract by management any bit more acceptable. it's like saying (here's another legal comparison) that it's ok for a police officer to deliver five blows to the head with a shovel to a suspect accused of delivering five blows to the head with a shovel to another police officer the day before.</p><p></p><p>considering this in the light of the democratic legal spirit; employees are free to circumvent it (or break it) any way they wish, the onus of upholding the spirit of the contract and to curb circumvention <strong>of the contract (<em>not</em> the business operation)</strong> is on management.</p><p></p><p></p><p>the team concept is nice, but it does <em>not</em> work for a unionized environment, let alone the UPS unionized environment. the team concept works incredibly well at FedEx Express, and it's the reason why they're not unionized nor will they become unionized. but in an environment where we have a contract, it doesn't work. that's the reality of unionized environments. i hate the teamwork card; the teamwork card is played to me by management when i initiate a grievance because it's an easy cop out for them to make <em>me</em> look like the dick.</p><p></p><p>to think that circumventing the contract 'for the benefit of the team' will help motivate a unionized environment and curb difficult-to-manage employees is not only preposterous, it's nearly impossible. unionized employees pay good money for the union, the company is willing to be subject to the union, but in return, the company will demand a lot out of the employees; which is perfectly fine; it's their business. however, insisting that employees should give <em>more</em> for the benefit of the company is the first sign of our rights slowly eroding at the front-line level.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="hoser, post: 216591, member: 6357"] i see how you would perceive this to be unjust, but if the contract has sections which are loopholes or is subject to a blind eye from management, that doesn't make applications that hurt the employees any more justifiable. the contract is for the employees, and is to be upheld by management. management turning a blind eye to contract provisions that would benefit an employee is of the fault of management and does not make deliberate circumventions of the contract by management any bit more acceptable. it's like saying (here's another legal comparison) that it's ok for a police officer to deliver five blows to the head with a shovel to a suspect accused of delivering five blows to the head with a shovel to another police officer the day before. considering this in the light of the democratic legal spirit; employees are free to circumvent it (or break it) any way they wish, the onus of upholding the spirit of the contract and to curb circumvention [B]of the contract ([I]not[/I] the business operation)[/B] is on management. the team concept is nice, but it does [I]not[/I] work for a unionized environment, let alone the UPS unionized environment. the team concept works incredibly well at FedEx Express, and it's the reason why they're not unionized nor will they become unionized. but in an environment where we have a contract, it doesn't work. that's the reality of unionized environments. i hate the teamwork card; the teamwork card is played to me by management when i initiate a grievance because it's an easy cop out for them to make [I]me[/I] look like the dick. to think that circumventing the contract 'for the benefit of the team' will help motivate a unionized environment and curb difficult-to-manage employees is not only preposterous, it's nearly impossible. unionized employees pay good money for the union, the company is willing to be subject to the union, but in return, the company will demand a lot out of the employees; which is perfectly fine; it's their business. however, insisting that employees should give [I]more[/I] for the benefit of the company is the first sign of our rights slowly eroding at the front-line level. [/QUOTE]
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