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<blockquote data-quote="pretzel_man" data-source="post: 785754" data-attributes="member: 927"><p>Popeye:</p><p> </p><p>First of all, you certainly do not know me or how I treat other UPSers (this includes BOTH those I manage and who manage me).</p><p> </p><p>I agree that you cannot tell someone BOTH how to do a job and the expected outcome. I do not treat my people like that and my manager doesn't treat me that way.</p><p> </p><p>There are lots of ways to get ahead in UPS without kissing any tail. The main way to succeed is to look at the entire picture. Seems to me that you are refusing to do so. I have a different perspective than you, so you assume that I have no integrity and am a yes man......</p><p> </p><p>I look at each situation on its own. Do you? This thread was about a change in management compensation. Still, no one has pointed out how this specific change reduced compensation.</p><p> </p><p>Past losses and the possibility of future losses have been brought up..... </p><p> </p><p>I have asked many times..... Go ask the division manager if he / she has the wrong plan on the road. You will not find one that says they are not in control. That is where it all starts. Plans are done locally. If a center manager thinks he / she can't run their own operation, do they have the guts to talk with their division manager?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pretzel_man, post: 785754, member: 927"] Popeye: First of all, you certainly do not know me or how I treat other UPSers (this includes BOTH those I manage and who manage me). I agree that you cannot tell someone BOTH how to do a job and the expected outcome. I do not treat my people like that and my manager doesn't treat me that way. There are lots of ways to get ahead in UPS without kissing any tail. The main way to succeed is to look at the entire picture. Seems to me that you are refusing to do so. I have a different perspective than you, so you assume that I have no integrity and am a yes man...... I look at each situation on its own. Do you? This thread was about a change in management compensation. Still, no one has pointed out how this specific change reduced compensation. Past losses and the possibility of future losses have been brought up..... I have asked many times..... Go ask the division manager if he / she has the wrong plan on the road. You will not find one that says they are not in control. That is where it all starts. Plans are done locally. If a center manager thinks he / she can't run their own operation, do they have the guts to talk with their division manager? [/QUOTE]
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