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<blockquote data-quote="Bagels" data-source="post: 1160329" data-attributes="member: 43436"><p>First off, my position is that corporate America continues to take too much from blue collar America, as evidenced from record worker productivity, record executive pay and decreasing worker compensation. I feel that the Teamsters at UPS highlight the strength in a union earning employees their fair share of the pie.</p><p></p><p>Secondly, I have -- many times -- worked as a seasonal driver.</p><p></p><p>But that doesn't change the fact that it's menial work. All employees receive some sort of company training. Companies like Delta Airlines provide their entry-level, minimum wage employees with eight-weeks paid classroom training -- but it deals with teaching the the company's info-structure, business & technology use, and is propitiatory in nature (cannot be used outside the company). In absence a CBA, markets dictate wages. This means that when you possess a marketable skill, you'll earn a similar wage no matter where you work -- and if you want a raise beyond inflation, you'll have to improve your skills or seek a promotion. But not at UPS -- the Teamsters guarantee that no matter how crummy an employee you are, as long as you don't commit an act of fraud or dishonestly, you'll retain your job and earn a decent raise every single year. Let's not be silly that UPS pays you $32+/hour with no-cost benefits, not because of a union, but because that's what you are worth. There's oodles of guys in their 20s and 30s left underemployed in this economy who are willing & more than capable of doing your job for half your compensation, yet there's tens of thousands of vacant jobs in math & science related fields, despite high unemployment.</p><p></p><p>And let's not be sillier on office politics: all jobs had them. A couple years ago, I took on a third job at a grocery store. I had to deal with (cash register) rings per minute, scans per minute, produce efficiency ratings (e.g. when cutting melons, my effectiveness in preventing waste)... I had to maintain & replenish the produce while being called to the cash register every 5 minutes, while being "asked" to carry out customer's groceries to their cars, while being asked to assist customer's in their wine selections (since I have knowledge in the area), etc. I was constantly screamed & yelled at, was written up several times for things like wearing a red tie (which is allegedly a color only to be worn by management). I was brought into the office by LP and told I was captured on-camera doing whippets -- and I'm somebody who's never been drunk in my life, let alone do something sill like whippets. One day, as I was about to punch out at the end of a 40-hour week, my manager told me that if the produce department wasn't in perfect condition by the time he arrived the next morning, I would be suspended (they had me assisting customers elsewhere the whole busy day) - indirectly telling me to work off the clock. So I told me 'before you suspend me, I'm quitting.' For this I earned 7.25/hour -- 5 cents above minimum wage.</p><p></p><p>Stop pretending that other jobs don't incur the same abuse as yours.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bagels, post: 1160329, member: 43436"] First off, my position is that corporate America continues to take too much from blue collar America, as evidenced from record worker productivity, record executive pay and decreasing worker compensation. I feel that the Teamsters at UPS highlight the strength in a union earning employees their fair share of the pie. Secondly, I have -- many times -- worked as a seasonal driver. But that doesn't change the fact that it's menial work. All employees receive some sort of company training. Companies like Delta Airlines provide their entry-level, minimum wage employees with eight-weeks paid classroom training -- but it deals with teaching the the company's info-structure, business & technology use, and is propitiatory in nature (cannot be used outside the company). In absence a CBA, markets dictate wages. This means that when you possess a marketable skill, you'll earn a similar wage no matter where you work -- and if you want a raise beyond inflation, you'll have to improve your skills or seek a promotion. But not at UPS -- the Teamsters guarantee that no matter how crummy an employee you are, as long as you don't commit an act of fraud or dishonestly, you'll retain your job and earn a decent raise every single year. Let's not be silly that UPS pays you $32+/hour with no-cost benefits, not because of a union, but because that's what you are worth. There's oodles of guys in their 20s and 30s left underemployed in this economy who are willing & more than capable of doing your job for half your compensation, yet there's tens of thousands of vacant jobs in math & science related fields, despite high unemployment. And let's not be sillier on office politics: all jobs had them. A couple years ago, I took on a third job at a grocery store. I had to deal with (cash register) rings per minute, scans per minute, produce efficiency ratings (e.g. when cutting melons, my effectiveness in preventing waste)... I had to maintain & replenish the produce while being called to the cash register every 5 minutes, while being "asked" to carry out customer's groceries to their cars, while being asked to assist customer's in their wine selections (since I have knowledge in the area), etc. I was constantly screamed & yelled at, was written up several times for things like wearing a red tie (which is allegedly a color only to be worn by management). I was brought into the office by LP and told I was captured on-camera doing whippets -- and I'm somebody who's never been drunk in my life, let alone do something sill like whippets. One day, as I was about to punch out at the end of a 40-hour week, my manager told me that if the produce department wasn't in perfect condition by the time he arrived the next morning, I would be suspended (they had me assisting customers elsewhere the whole busy day) - indirectly telling me to work off the clock. So I told me 'before you suspend me, I'm quitting.' For this I earned 7.25/hour -- 5 cents above minimum wage. Stop pretending that other jobs don't incur the same abuse as yours. [/QUOTE]
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