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<blockquote data-quote="toonertoo" data-source="post: 101984" data-attributes="member: 1944">I realize it isnt mgmt in my center or anyone elses doing this to them directly.&nbsp; When I say MGMT I am talking about the dweebs who ARE sittting in air conditioning, who are NOT taking into account the heat, (just look at ST LOUIS or The QUEENS in NYC,) these are the ones who should lose their jobs as they cannot GET THE BIG PICTURE.&nbsp; The water in the morning helps, but it would help a whole lot more, if just for a day or two or a week, or however long it lasts, we all were just allowed to work together to get the job done.&nbsp; I dont want to see anyone in trouble for ignoring orders, or die from heat exhaustion either.&nbsp; If we could just get through the things that affect us all, we could go back to bickering about everything we have,&nbsp;&nbsp; us vs them since the beginning, when its over.&nbsp; From what I saw on&nbsp; Friday, I will be EXTREMELY suprised if we do not have 1/2 the force call off.&nbsp; I saw people who were totally drained, given 2 more hrs work than th 10 hr day they had Thursday because some pencil pusher said so.&nbsp; I saw people losing control our of sheer exhaustion and frustration.&nbsp; Mgmt and hourly alike.&nbsp; Sending out help in the afternoon and telling us to give the helper what we need to be in , not under or over, and the person doing the helping getting slammed.&nbsp; We arent dipatchers we are drivers, it isnt our job to dispatch it should be done in the AM.&nbsp; When it comes to survival animals will eat each other................or their own.&nbsp; I never saw anything as out of control.&nbsp; People saying they couldnt do it, mgmt saying do it or else Ill give you so much work you wont see your family all night for a week.&nbsp; (which for people with youngsters really hurts)&nbsp; Thats not the way a Friday or any day should start out.&nbsp; Talk about safety and then send people out spitting fire, justifiably.&nbsp; For instance a guy has a 87 del stops,&nbsp; 8.9 on Thursday, and he is like .20 late, how can you justifiably send him out with 120, and tell him to be in under 9.5.&nbsp;&nbsp; it cant be done and shouldnt be attempted, but thats what we are expected to do.&nbsp; Do the math, its not close, its not safe, and any attempt to achieve that goal is ludicrous.&nbsp; And Im not talking about me, I just call at 2 say it isnt looking good, and here is what is going to occur, through my best attempt.&nbsp; I do my best, and I do as well as the guys younger than me, but my advantage is my life accepts the hours as my kids are grown and gone, I get home I havent missed anything, I can take a cold shower, have a cold drink, and watch TV in the cold living room.&nbsp; I dont have anything else demanding my attention.&nbsp; And I dont have the guilt of missing this or that which only compounds the stress.&nbsp;&nbsp; I wish someone in the Ivory tower would realize what they are doing to the morale.&nbsp; Yes we get great pay, but we work for every penny.&nbsp; There may be a line&nbsp; 20 miles long waiting for our jobs but you will be lucky to get a 1/4 mile of people to make it and stay.&nbsp; And to ask for a little consideration, and now that it may be over, too late to get it, is not too much to ask from any employer.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="toonertoo, post: 101984, member: 1944"] I realize it isnt mgmt in my center or anyone elses doing this to them directly. When I say MGMT I am talking about the dweebs who ARE sittting in air conditioning, who are NOT taking into account the heat, (just look at ST LOUIS or The QUEENS in NYC,) these are the ones who should lose their jobs as they cannot GET THE BIG PICTURE. The water in the morning helps, but it would help a whole lot more, if just for a day or two or a week, or however long it lasts, we all were just allowed to work together to get the job done. I dont want to see anyone in trouble for ignoring orders, or die from heat exhaustion either. If we could just get through the things that affect us all, we could go back to bickering about everything we have, us vs them since the beginning, when its over. From what I saw on Friday, I will be EXTREMELY suprised if we do not have 1/2 the force call off. I saw people who were totally drained, given 2 more hrs work than th 10 hr day they had Thursday because some pencil pusher said so. I saw people losing control our of sheer exhaustion and frustration. Mgmt and hourly alike. Sending out help in the afternoon and telling us to give the helper what we need to be in , not under or over, and the person doing the helping getting slammed. We arent dipatchers we are drivers, it isnt our job to dispatch it should be done in the AM. When it comes to survival animals will eat each other................or their own. I never saw anything as out of control. People saying they couldnt do it, mgmt saying do it or else Ill give you so much work you wont see your family all night for a week. (which for people with youngsters really hurts) Thats not the way a Friday or any day should start out. Talk about safety and then send people out spitting fire, justifiably. For instance a guy has a 87 del stops, 8.9 on Thursday, and he is like .20 late, how can you justifiably send him out with 120, and tell him to be in under 9.5. it cant be done and shouldnt be attempted, but thats what we are expected to do. Do the math, its not close, its not safe, and any attempt to achieve that goal is ludicrous. And Im not talking about me, I just call at 2 say it isnt looking good, and here is what is going to occur, through my best attempt. I do my best, and I do as well as the guys younger than me, but my advantage is my life accepts the hours as my kids are grown and gone, I get home I havent missed anything, I can take a cold shower, have a cold drink, and watch TV in the cold living room. I dont have anything else demanding my attention. And I dont have the guilt of missing this or that which only compounds the stress. I wish someone in the Ivory tower would realize what they are doing to the morale. Yes we get great pay, but we work for every penny. There may be a line 20 miles long waiting for our jobs but you will be lucky to get a 1/4 mile of people to make it and stay. And to ask for a little consideration, and now that it may be over, too late to get it, is not too much to ask from any employer. [/QUOTE]

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