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Message: <blockquote data-quote="vantexan" data-source="post: 5411631" data-attributes="member: 24302"><p>So you're saying the Russians didn't roll right up to the edge of Kyiv and hammered suburbs and apartment buildings?  It's all some controlled narrative?  The Ukrainians didn't fight them off?  What exactly do you think the Russians and Ukrainians have been doing for 7 months?  Maybe the Russians aren't really in Ukraine and all of this is just a ploy to split billions between Biden and his cronies, Zelensky and his buddies, and Putin and his oligarchs.  Europe isn't really going to have a bad winter after Putin cut off the gas.  Nah, it's all a lie to deceive the public.  Getting into rickyb Matrix territory here.</p></blockquote><p></p>