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<blockquote data-quote="Fredless" data-source="post: 178379" data-attributes="member: 5197"><p>I think you and I are talking about a grey area of the contract. I like to think of our contract as similar to the Bible or Qur'an. Its all in how you interpret it. You'd think after 40+ years they'd learn to make it as black and white as possible.</p><p> </p><p>I'll tell you exactly what my B.A. is going to say about what you're quoting from the master agreement. He's going to say, "Fred, theres been no job loss. No one has been laid off. They still have a job, they're still getting 3.5 hours a shift."</p><p> </p><p>If I get bumped out of my ECS clerk posistion, theoretically, I'll just be bumped down to unload/reload. I won't take a pay cut, I'll just have to work a lot harder for my 10.00 an hour than I was used to and I'll just get the gurantee every night and not at least 4 hours as an ECS clerk.</p><p> </p><p>However, the bid air drivers are the ones who got screwed on this. They didn't keep their 12.50+ an hour for air driving, they got busted down to whatever their inside rate would have been..and for some of them, that was around a 4 dollar an hour paycut. They had a choice to go to reload or preload and I think all of them chose preload so they could at least hope to get exception air work. They might have a greivance on that because they lost pay, they however did not lose their "jobs".</p><p> </p><p>You see how that can be interpreted? It's not that I'm trying to shoot you down, I'm on yourside by all means its just that I don't like going into a firefight, which this will surely be, without the best footing I can get and all my ducks in a row so I don't look like a fool (or at least that big of one).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Fredless, post: 178379, member: 5197"] I think you and I are talking about a grey area of the contract. I like to think of our contract as similar to the Bible or Qur'an. Its all in how you interpret it. You'd think after 40+ years they'd learn to make it as black and white as possible. I'll tell you exactly what my B.A. is going to say about what you're quoting from the master agreement. He's going to say, "Fred, theres been no job loss. No one has been laid off. They still have a job, they're still getting 3.5 hours a shift." If I get bumped out of my ECS clerk posistion, theoretically, I'll just be bumped down to unload/reload. I won't take a pay cut, I'll just have to work a lot harder for my 10.00 an hour than I was used to and I'll just get the gurantee every night and not at least 4 hours as an ECS clerk. However, the bid air drivers are the ones who got screwed on this. They didn't keep their 12.50+ an hour for air driving, they got busted down to whatever their inside rate would have been..and for some of them, that was around a 4 dollar an hour paycut. They had a choice to go to reload or preload and I think all of them chose preload so they could at least hope to get exception air work. They might have a greivance on that because they lost pay, they however did not lose their "jobs". You see how that can be interpreted? It's not that I'm trying to shoot you down, I'm on yourside by all means its just that I don't like going into a firefight, which this will surely be, without the best footing I can get and all my ducks in a row so I don't look like a fool (or at least that big of one). [/QUOTE]
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