400+PPH... "Best I've seen" wall quality... Pending Susp. for Misloads. Really?

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by teemstur, Sep 18, 2014.

  1. teemstur

    teemstur New Member

    So, let me start by saying : I know Misloads are bad and should be easy to avoid.

    Now, let me go on.

    My misload rate has gone under 1/3000 and I now have a pending suspension for it.

    I have a PPH in the high 300's or low 400's daily. Every time there is a wall quality audit, they say that mine are damn near perfect. I show up on time every day (7 months and clocked in ONE minute late, once.)

    My belt, around break time, has 3500 scans, with about 8 people. Every other belt in the building has ~3000 scans with 11 people. We are understaffed and never get help from other belts. As a result we are being pushed to the extreme - 400 PPH and backed up all the way to the pickoff? Great, load faster. No, I can't send any help, they are busy.

    Constantly getting told to go faster. I get a few missorts and toss em' out of the trailer to the catwalks. Yell out "MISSORTS IN ______" and they are still there an hour later. Someone comes to help and starts tossing boxes back on the extendo, next thing I know a few of them get loaded and of course that comes back on me.

    Am I free of all blame? Hell no. Is there more that could be done? Yes, I think so.

    I was handed papers for a grievance and told I have a "pending suspension" because of my misload rate which is partly/largly due to the fact that the entire belt is understaffed. Today we had everyone again on our belt at a solid 300 PPH but at the end of the day we had 7 carts of irregs waiting because the guy running the floors had to push flow for the trailer that we have that was backed up all the way to pickoff and belt shutting off every 10 seconds. Still no help from other belts.

    I feel that it is a tad unfair that I am expected to have a perfect wall quality, 400+PPH, and 0 misloads at all times. There has to be a compromise somewhere. What am I missing?
  2. ZQXC

    ZQXC Guest

    Understand this: ups does not care how well you perform, or how long you have maintained that performance; they are only looking for the exception (in this case, a misload)
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  3. bleedinbrown58

    bleedinbrown58 mouth breathers...everywhere

    Unfair?? Wah.

    2014-09-19-02-49-01-493029441.jpeg If you were given a verbal warning and a warning letter...they can suspend you for misloads.
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  4. joeboodog

    joeboodog good people drink good beer

    And they wonnder why we all have sour attitudes.
  5. Indecisi0n

    Indecisi0n Well-Known Member

    Anytime you need someone to audit your package let me know.
  6. rkctkc

    rkctkc Member

    If they want to start handing out suspensions for misloads, then make sure you don't get any at all. If you have to slow your pace down to a quarter of your normal pace to do so then so be it. I've never heard of anyone being suspended or fired for working too slow outside of their probationary period.
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  7. oldngray

    oldngray nowhere special

    It has to be a chronic and serious problem to get suspended for misloads.
  8. ChickenLegs

    ChickenLegs Safety Expert

    Simple fix:

    1)Walk the misssorts out of the trailer
    2)Let your sup know
    3)Put the packages on the belt to be resorted
    4)Now you can stop blaming everyone else.
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  9. UPSER110

    UPSER110 Active Member

    #1 read your contract book (no production standards) #2 slow the F down. #3 verify pkgs and don't missload.
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  10. Nostromo

    Nostromo Member

    Boy after reading this I'm counting my blessings for not getting suspended for having 7+ misloads during my probationary period.

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  11. Notretiredyet

    Notretiredyet Active Member

    File a grievance if you still can regarding misleads esp if others are loading your trucks. Work at a safe and reasonable pace and do your best to reduce the misleads. Understaffing is a common practice at UPS and will never get addressed until it begins to hurt someone's numbers with the power to change it.
  12. Sleeve_meet_Heart

    Sleeve_meet_Heart making the unreadable unreadabler

    I start would be cleaning up every falling package from the belt or rollers, since egress is a major safety concern. You cannot be fired for working safely and maintaining egress. let's play the petty tit-for-tat game!
  13. annie345

    annie345 Member

    The union dues not recognize production standards.. Had anyone been written up for lack of production? Or for misloads, being late, not using your methods, etc... As long as it's getting done everyday, why would they hire help? Do your job properly ( not as fast as you can) and show up for work and on time.. Let management figure out production and staffing.
  14. annie345

    annie345 Member

    In my center mgmt tried cracking down on misloads.. We the union members got on the same page and made our primary concerns no misloads, and no attendance issues.. After 2 weeks of drivers wrapping up their cars and starting their routes 45 minutes after their start times, those warning letters stopped. They got the message.
  15. Wally

    Wally Hailing from Parts Unknown.

    Hire more employees and slow things down and missorts won't be a problem.
  16. Dr.Brown

    Dr.Brown Swollen Member

    loading trailers??
  17. AKCoverMan

    AKCoverMan Active Member

    Flip side, if they have not gone thru the verbal and the warning letter, you have a slam dunk grievance on the suspension.
  18. UPS4Life

    UPS4Life Active Member

    Doesn't your building have the scanners that beep differently when the package doesn't belong in that trailer? Like everyone else said aim for 0 misloads. My building use to give pizza away on Fridays for anyone who held a 1/5000 mis sort level all week. It was something small the company didn't have to do and I appreciated it. But now they have scanners that beep if it's wrong so no more pizza. Take this as a primary concern. They're more worried about misloads than pph. Pph doesn't mean squat especially if your misloading. Just out of curiosity how do you know they're the same misloads you found earlier?

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  19. Jackburton

    Jackburton Gone Fish'n

    It's all about not being the "needs most help" person.
  20. Nostromo

    Nostromo Member

    Makes sense since everyone in my area gets 2 people to a feeder. Only "bad" part is I get the feeling my co workers think I'm an over achiever. To the op what I've started doing is looking at the zip code or slic number if it's not the same I don't even bother scanning it.

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