9.5 Can't File. B/C I don't have a RT. Why do I pay Union Dues?? Separate But Equal.

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by dqs95124, Feb 26, 2011.

  1. dqs95124

    dqs95124 Member

    I'm on a different rt. every day my agent says It's a National agreement and He can't do anything. There is so much room for abuse here. Eliminateing RTS, cutting cars. I go out on avg 180 to 200 stops, then I have to go help some one. With lower seniority going home.. If I can't file for O/t then I should be able to file for seniority?? Right...
     
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  2. over9five

    over9five Moderator Staff Member

    Re: 9.5 Can't File. B/C I don't have a RT. Why do I pay Union Dues?? Separte But Equa

    Does it say that in the contract (that you're not eligible because you don't have a route)?

    I don't think so.
     
  3. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Re: 9.5 Can't File. B/C I don't have a RT. Why do I pay Union Dues?? Separte But Equa

    Cover drivers cannot file 9.5 grievances.
     
  4. barnyard

    barnyard KTM rider Staff Member

    Re: 9.5 Can't File. B/C I don't have a RT. Why do I pay Union Dues?? Separte But Equa

    We have a couple of cover drivers that have successfully filed over 9.5. As soon as we got PAS/EDD over 9.5 grievances have been slam dunks.
     
  5. dqs95124

    dqs95124 Member

    Re: 9.5 Can't File. B/C I don't have a RT. Why do I pay Union Dues?? Separte But Equa

    That's what I thought. OT is Ot.
     
  6. dqs95124

    dqs95124 Member

    Re: 9.5 Can't File. B/C I don't have a RT. Why do I pay Union Dues?? Separte But Equa

    Why?? Do get paid more or less. I pay the same union dues..So why can't I file a 9.5..
     
  7. toonertoo

    toonertoo Most Awesome Dog Staff Member

    Re: 9.5 Can't File. B/C I don't have a RT. Why do I pay Union Dues?? Separte But Equa

    I think they are blowing smoke. Go to your rep, he would know this answer based on your contract.
     
  8. grgrcr88

    grgrcr88 No It's not green grocer!

    Re: 9.5 Can't File. B/C I don't have a RT. Why do I pay Union Dues?? Separte But Equa

    Says who?
     
  9. dqs95124

    dqs95124 Member

    Re: 9.5 Can't File. B/C I don't have a RT. Why do I pay Union Dues?? Separte But Equa

    I was told I can't. Went there done that... thanks Ohio.
     
  10. dqs95124

    dqs95124 Member

    Re: 9.5 Can't File. B/C I don't have a RT. Why do I pay Union Dues?? Separte But Equa

    MY agent says I can't. National . O/T is O/T for all of us...
     
  11. over9five

    over9five Moderator Staff Member

    Re: 9.5 Can't File. B/C I don't have a RT. Why do I pay Union Dues?? Separte But Equa

    Read Article 37. It does NOT exempt drivers without a route.

    You most certainly CAN file for over 9.5!
     
  12. barnyard

    barnyard KTM rider Staff Member

    Re: 9.5 Can't File. B/C I don't have a RT. Why do I pay Union Dues?? Separte But Equa

    Yep, this is a case where you need a copy of the contract and you need to read it.
     
  13. dqs95124

    dqs95124 Member

    Re: 9.5 Can't File. B/C I don't have a RT. Why do I pay Union Dues?? Separte But Equa

    MY agent Jerry SWEENY 287 SAYS I can't. and will not file
     
  14. lvgolfer962

    lvgolfer962 Member

    Re: 9.5 Can't File. B/C I don't have a RT. Why do I pay Union Dues?? Separte But Equa


    where can I get a copy of the contract? Like the op I tried to file an over 9.5 grievance and was told that since im a utility driver and i don't have a route that im not eligible. At the time we were still in the western district and have since been moved to the Southern California district and would really love to have a copy of this contract
     
  15. dqs95124

    dqs95124 Member

    Re: 9.5 Can't File. B/C I don't have a RT. Why do I pay Union Dues?? Separte But Equa

    I've read the contract. 9.5 is 9.5. What do you do when yr. biz agent tells you can't file
     
  16. dqs95124

    dqs95124 Member

    Re: 9.5 Can't File. B/C I don't have a RT. Why do I pay Union Dues?? Separte But Equa

    I've read it. Told my Agent about it. My Union told me non bid drivers are exempt. How do g over agents head w/ this b/s..
     
  17. lvgolfer962

    lvgolfer962 Member

    Re: 9.5 Can't File. B/C I don't have a RT. Why do I pay Union Dues?? Separte But Equa

    I was also shut down by the business agent, something to do with an amendment in the western contract vs the national contract???
    If i was wrongfully denied i will go after penalty pay and really stir it up. Ive got calendars with hours worked each day for the last 3 years LOL
     
  18. lvgolfer962

    lvgolfer962 Member

    Re: 9.5 Can't File. B/C I don't have a RT. Why do I pay Union Dues?? Separte But Equa

    Just remembered why they told me i couldn't file.

    They said the the normal driver with the route would have to be on the 9.5 list and i would have to be working his route for the 3 days over 9.5 to file??????
     
  19. dqs95124

    dqs95124 Member

    Re: 9.5 Can't File. B/C I don't have a RT. Why do I pay Union Dues?? Separte But Equa

    why?? OT IS OT.......Cover driver .
     
  20. lvgolfer962

    lvgolfer962 Member

    Re: 9.5 Can't File. B/C I don't have a RT. Why do I pay Union Dues?? Separte But Equa

    No clue brother. We dont have cover drivers anymore were all full-time utility drivers(15-20 of us). I did a different route everyday this week so that the normal/rte driver could have the day off(not a scheduled day off-they came in a wanted to go home unpaid day off).