Home
Forums
New posts
Search forums
What's new
New posts
Latest activity
Members
Current visitors
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
New posts
Search forums
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Home
Forums
Brown Cafe UPS Forum
UPS Union Issues
9.5 Can't File. B/C I don't have a RT. Why do I pay Union Dues?? Separate But Equal.
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="959Nanook" data-source="post: 827951" data-attributes="member: 14462"><p><strong>Re: 9.5 Can't File. B/C I don't have a RT. Why do I pay Union Dues?? Separte But Equa</strong></p><p></p><p>@menotyou: I agree. My union representation does not agree strongly enough to do anything about it or the right union representative has not been informed. </p><p></p><p>@dqs95124: The general case seems to be that there is no longer a Opt In/Opt Out List because of the dynamics that occur with such a list. There is still supposed to be a list for drivers who have Opted In to the Article 37 language. To qualify to get on such a list, we have to have a "qualifying week" where we were on a route for the whole week and were over 9.5 for three or more days. Once we are qualified to be on the list, we then have to go speak to Supervision/Management about getting on the 9.5 List. We do not have to file a grievance to get on the 9.5 List. Maybe it is just me, but I think you are being misrepresented if you have to file a grievance to get on the 9.5 List UNLESS the grievance is because UPS is not allowing you on the 9.5 List because you are a Cover Driver. </p><p></p><p>Cover Drivers <em>should </em>be able to get on the 9.5 List if they qualify. It has been explained to me that they are only on the 9.5 List for the route they were covering when they qualified. It has also been discussed on Brown Cafe that the Bid Driver on the route the Cover Driver qualified for 9.5 on has to be on the 9.5 List also or the Cover Driver will not win an Article 37 grievance on that route. In other words, it is feasible even in the worst of scenarios; however, your Management can avoid the issue altogether by shifting the Cover Drivers at least once during the week (which is apparently done in some jurisdictions). </p><p></p><p>Technically, I am qualified for 9.5 on two routes (out of thirteen) in my Center but only one of them had a 9.5 Bid Driver when I qualified on the respective route. As a Cover Driver, I value whatever continuity I can get so I would rather be allowed to just cover routes for the full week which I get the opportunity to do pretty often now as the senior Cover Driver. As much as I may wish the circumstances were different, UPS has not failed to pay me for the hours worked and the general consensus I get from my union representation is, "If you don't like it, you should have started working here earlier. The door is over there."</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="959Nanook, post: 827951, member: 14462"] [b]Re: 9.5 Can't File. B/C I don't have a RT. Why do I pay Union Dues?? Separte But Equa[/b] @menotyou: I agree. My union representation does not agree strongly enough to do anything about it or the right union representative has not been informed. @dqs95124: The general case seems to be that there is no longer a Opt In/Opt Out List because of the dynamics that occur with such a list. There is still supposed to be a list for drivers who have Opted In to the Article 37 language. To qualify to get on such a list, we have to have a "qualifying week" where we were on a route for the whole week and were over 9.5 for three or more days. Once we are qualified to be on the list, we then have to go speak to Supervision/Management about getting on the 9.5 List. We do not have to file a grievance to get on the 9.5 List. Maybe it is just me, but I think you are being misrepresented if you have to file a grievance to get on the 9.5 List UNLESS the grievance is because UPS is not allowing you on the 9.5 List because you are a Cover Driver. Cover Drivers [I]should [/I]be able to get on the 9.5 List if they qualify. It has been explained to me that they are only on the 9.5 List for the route they were covering when they qualified. It has also been discussed on Brown Cafe that the Bid Driver on the route the Cover Driver qualified for 9.5 on has to be on the 9.5 List also or the Cover Driver will not win an Article 37 grievance on that route. In other words, it is feasible even in the worst of scenarios; however, your Management can avoid the issue altogether by shifting the Cover Drivers at least once during the week (which is apparently done in some jurisdictions). Technically, I am qualified for 9.5 on two routes (out of thirteen) in my Center but only one of them had a 9.5 Bid Driver when I qualified on the respective route. As a Cover Driver, I value whatever continuity I can get so I would rather be allowed to just cover routes for the full week which I get the opportunity to do pretty often now as the senior Cover Driver. As much as I may wish the circumstances were different, UPS has not failed to pay me for the hours worked and the general consensus I get from my union representation is, "If you don't like it, you should have started working here earlier. The door is over there." [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Home
Forums
Brown Cafe UPS Forum
UPS Union Issues
9.5 Can't File. B/C I don't have a RT. Why do I pay Union Dues?? Separate But Equal.
Top