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<blockquote data-quote="beentheredonethat" data-source="post: 1183295" data-attributes="member: 4886"><p>I really don't believe the two are mutually exclusive. Do I believe in evolution.. Yes. Do I believe that there is a God and God made the heavens and the earth? Absolutely.</p><p></p><p>I could spend hours and write pages and pages on what I believe, but I'll try to be brief. The bible has many parables in the New testament. Stories that Jesus told to help to explain what God wants and how God wants us to behave. I also believe that on a scale of 1 to 10 for knowledge, most of us are probably a 4 or 5 and God is a 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000+</p><p>So could God fully explain to us how the heaven's and earth were made? No.. since we could never understand it so he told a story, a parable if you will.</p><p></p><p>Think of it this way... If a 3 year old child asks where a baby comes from, and let's assume you have a PHD in biology and a professor at Harvard Medical school. What would you tell them? Would you tell them all the knowledge you had on the subject? Or would you "dumb it down" and tell them something like when a man and a women are in love and God blesses them with a little baby to love and care for. Or something to that effect. </p><p></p><p>Now the child is older and 12-14 years old. Do you say the same thing to them as you said roughly 10 years earlier? Heck no.. You advance your answer to their level of understanding. Now, that child is now in college and studying to be a Dr. Now when biology and reproduction is taught, you can teach them the full breadth of your knowledge. Odds are also that in the last 20 years as the child grew older, your knowledge level increased considerably too. </p><p></p><p>In my opinion, a similar thing was done with how God taught us via the bible. He only gave as much as we could understand at the time. </p><p></p><p>That's a tiny fraction of the reason why I believe evolution and belief in God is not mutually exclusive. </p><p></p><p>As to why God did it the way God did things. I don't have the foggiest as to why or how. That's beyond my comprehension. </p><p></p><p>I do find it hard to believe that just random chance somehow caused "the big bang". It's hard to believe that random chance allowed the matter to form galaxies, star's, planets. All the various elements and chemical compounds. Random chance then somehow created conditions where life could start from no life. etc etc etc.</p><p>I believe that there was a God, that started the process, that had a plan and slowly guided the universe as we know it, including our own selves. Did God utilize evolution as a tool to slowly develop the planet? I think so.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I realize a lot of other people may or may not believe. That is their right to choose. </p><p></p><p>Someone else mentioned how they don't believe in a God where if you don't believe in Jesus then you won't get to heaven. Whereas a murderer or rapists can enter if they believe in him even if it's at the last minute. I believe in Jesus and he was sent to die for our sins. However, keep in mind. The idea is he by his act has allowed us to join him in heaven. He decides who can enter or not. At the time he was crucified the vast majority of the world did not know him or what was going on in that area of the world. Are they denied entry? I don't believe so. I think Jesus is smart enough to know this and grant entry based on his own judgement. Also, I believe Jesus is smart enough to know if a person says they believe when they really don't. </p><p></p><p>If someone is taught about Jesus, and that person outright denies him. Then will that person be allowed into heaven? I don't know, but I'd rather not be that person.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="beentheredonethat, post: 1183295, member: 4886"] I really don't believe the two are mutually exclusive. Do I believe in evolution.. Yes. Do I believe that there is a God and God made the heavens and the earth? Absolutely. I could spend hours and write pages and pages on what I believe, but I'll try to be brief. The bible has many parables in the New testament. Stories that Jesus told to help to explain what God wants and how God wants us to behave. I also believe that on a scale of 1 to 10 for knowledge, most of us are probably a 4 or 5 and God is a 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000+ So could God fully explain to us how the heaven's and earth were made? No.. since we could never understand it so he told a story, a parable if you will. Think of it this way... If a 3 year old child asks where a baby comes from, and let's assume you have a PHD in biology and a professor at Harvard Medical school. What would you tell them? Would you tell them all the knowledge you had on the subject? Or would you "dumb it down" and tell them something like when a man and a women are in love and God blesses them with a little baby to love and care for. Or something to that effect. Now the child is older and 12-14 years old. Do you say the same thing to them as you said roughly 10 years earlier? Heck no.. You advance your answer to their level of understanding. Now, that child is now in college and studying to be a Dr. Now when biology and reproduction is taught, you can teach them the full breadth of your knowledge. Odds are also that in the last 20 years as the child grew older, your knowledge level increased considerably too. In my opinion, a similar thing was done with how God taught us via the bible. He only gave as much as we could understand at the time. That's a tiny fraction of the reason why I believe evolution and belief in God is not mutually exclusive. As to why God did it the way God did things. I don't have the foggiest as to why or how. That's beyond my comprehension. I do find it hard to believe that just random chance somehow caused "the big bang". It's hard to believe that random chance allowed the matter to form galaxies, star's, planets. All the various elements and chemical compounds. Random chance then somehow created conditions where life could start from no life. etc etc etc. I believe that there was a God, that started the process, that had a plan and slowly guided the universe as we know it, including our own selves. Did God utilize evolution as a tool to slowly develop the planet? I think so. I realize a lot of other people may or may not believe. That is their right to choose. Someone else mentioned how they don't believe in a God where if you don't believe in Jesus then you won't get to heaven. Whereas a murderer or rapists can enter if they believe in him even if it's at the last minute. I believe in Jesus and he was sent to die for our sins. However, keep in mind. The idea is he by his act has allowed us to join him in heaven. He decides who can enter or not. At the time he was crucified the vast majority of the world did not know him or what was going on in that area of the world. Are they denied entry? I don't believe so. I think Jesus is smart enough to know this and grant entry based on his own judgement. Also, I believe Jesus is smart enough to know if a person says they believe when they really don't. If someone is taught about Jesus, and that person outright denies him. Then will that person be allowed into heaven? I don't know, but I'd rather not be that person. [/QUOTE]
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