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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 266503" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>I find it of interest that so-called conservatives of our day who wail and gnash of teeth at all things liberal and socialist will extoll the virutes of the "Pledge of Allegiance" and want to assert it's daily saying in our public classrooms. I often wonder if those same people just for one moment ever considered it's history and who the person that wrote it and what they believed in the way of politics. Do they even understand that it's presence is a 20th century creation and in no way connected to the actions of the founding fathers and in fact, it's probable they would oppose such ideas in the first place?</p><p> </p><p>I doubt it because if they will continue the Christianized paganism known as Christmas, why not promote the ideals of a 1920's Christian socialist in demanding the reciting daily of his Pledge of Allegiance.</p><p> </p><p>I've always found it interesting that our founding fathers never found it necessary to fabricate and put into place mandated public displays of a citizens loyality or allegience. It's also of interest that historically these types of things are generally only found among dispotic, autocratic or tyrannical forms of gov't as a means of a type of collective mind control in order to maintain the focus of the population on the superior position of the State and the inferior position of the individual. Oh that's right, the founding fathers believed in the opposite approach!</p><p> </p><p>Oh by the way, the proper salute during the pledge is for the arm to be fully extended with palm upright. You know, like the Nazi salute just with the palm turned up. It was changed after WW2 because of Hilter but if you want to be the purist!</p><p><img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/wink.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":wink2:" title="Wink :wink2:" data-shortname=":wink2:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 266503, member: 2189"] I find it of interest that so-called conservatives of our day who wail and gnash of teeth at all things liberal and socialist will extoll the virutes of the "Pledge of Allegiance" and want to assert it's daily saying in our public classrooms. I often wonder if those same people just for one moment ever considered it's history and who the person that wrote it and what they believed in the way of politics. Do they even understand that it's presence is a 20th century creation and in no way connected to the actions of the founding fathers and in fact, it's probable they would oppose such ideas in the first place? I doubt it because if they will continue the Christianized paganism known as Christmas, why not promote the ideals of a 1920's Christian socialist in demanding the reciting daily of his Pledge of Allegiance. I've always found it interesting that our founding fathers never found it necessary to fabricate and put into place mandated public displays of a citizens loyality or allegience. It's also of interest that historically these types of things are generally only found among dispotic, autocratic or tyrannical forms of gov't as a means of a type of collective mind control in order to maintain the focus of the population on the superior position of the State and the inferior position of the individual. Oh that's right, the founding fathers believed in the opposite approach! Oh by the way, the proper salute during the pledge is for the arm to be fully extended with palm upright. You know, like the Nazi salute just with the palm turned up. It was changed after WW2 because of Hilter but if you want to be the purist! :wink2: [/QUOTE]
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