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Are we contractually entitled to a copy of our injury report?
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<blockquote data-quote="JonFrum" data-source="post: 750271" data-attributes="member: 18044"><p>From your many posts over the years, it's clear you hate union members, <u>especially</u> those who are well informed and exercise their rights. So it doesn't surprise me that you are the recipient of so many grievances, and that you consider so many of them bogus. Perhaps you can give us a dozen or so examples?</p><p> </p><p>Most employees who have questions or complaints find the Union rather difficult to deal with. The Union may tell the employee that he has no case, or that his case isn't worth fighting, or that it's not winable, or that he has let the time deadline pass, or he has failed to document the offences and corral the witnesses properly, or he has mishandled the situation prior to contacting the Union and has suposedly made a mess of any potential case. Normally the Union is all to quick to "blame the victim." I can't imagine many bogus grievances making it through the Union's obstacle course.</p><p> </p><p>Regarding the grievance you mention, you seem to be deliberately setting up a situation that is designed to send false signals to everyone and thus trigger a grievance. Yo are posing as a feeder driver in browns and hauling a trailer round trip. I guess everyone is supose to assume you are only doing it for "training" purposes and assume it is the same trailer coming and going, or take your word for it. Another Supervisor would have driven up and back in his <u>private</u> <u>car</u> or hitched a ride with a feeder driver going that way.</p><p> </p><p>Do they not have trailers at the destination building? Can you guarantee in advance the trailer will return with you? If plans changed and you had to leave the trailer at the destination, would you turn yourself in voluntarily and insist a union worker be paid for the day?</p><p> </p><p>Because this is a "training" mission it is unusual and therefor debatable as a grievance. It is not a bogus grievance as some grievances are intended to clarify ambiguous situations. Normally hauling an empty trailer is union work and you know it. Are you wasting Company resources to set up an intentionally misleading show, hoping that someone will take the bait and file?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JonFrum, post: 750271, member: 18044"] From your many posts over the years, it's clear you hate union members, [U]especially[/U] those who are well informed and exercise their rights. So it doesn't surprise me that you are the recipient of so many grievances, and that you consider so many of them bogus. Perhaps you can give us a dozen or so examples? Most employees who have questions or complaints find the Union rather difficult to deal with. The Union may tell the employee that he has no case, or that his case isn't worth fighting, or that it's not winable, or that he has let the time deadline pass, or he has failed to document the offences and corral the witnesses properly, or he has mishandled the situation prior to contacting the Union and has suposedly made a mess of any potential case. Normally the Union is all to quick to "blame the victim." I can't imagine many bogus grievances making it through the Union's obstacle course. Regarding the grievance you mention, you seem to be deliberately setting up a situation that is designed to send false signals to everyone and thus trigger a grievance. Yo are posing as a feeder driver in browns and hauling a trailer round trip. I guess everyone is supose to assume you are only doing it for "training" purposes and assume it is the same trailer coming and going, or take your word for it. Another Supervisor would have driven up and back in his [U]private[/U] [U]car[/U] or hitched a ride with a feeder driver going that way. Do they not have trailers at the destination building? Can you guarantee in advance the trailer will return with you? If plans changed and you had to leave the trailer at the destination, would you turn yourself in voluntarily and insist a union worker be paid for the day? Because this is a "training" mission it is unusual and therefor debatable as a grievance. It is not a bogus grievance as some grievances are intended to clarify ambiguous situations. Normally hauling an empty trailer is union work and you know it. Are you wasting Company resources to set up an intentionally misleading show, hoping that someone will take the bait and file? [/QUOTE]
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