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Are we contractually entitled to a copy of our injury report?
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<blockquote data-quote="JonFrum" data-source="post: 752641" data-attributes="member: 18044"><p>The purpose of the grievance process is to enforce the Contract when a provision is being violated, or to get a clarification of a vague provision or situation. Neither side can successfully use the grievance process to advance their cause by creating new benefits for their side.</p><p> </p><p>Decisions in the grievance process ultimately are made by the same people who negotiated the language in the first place. And the decisions are made by agreement by both sides, Management and Labor. New gains can't be achieved unless the Contract is reopened and renegotiated by mutual agreement. </p><p> </p><p>Nor can gains be made in arbitration. Arbitrators have no authority to create new benefits. They can only apply existing language. "You can't get in arbitration what you didn't get in negotiation."</p><p> </p><p>Your hatred of Union members is causing you to imagine we are using the grievance process to steal from the Company.</p><p> </p><p>Earlier your hatred of Union members caused you to imagine that all sorts of bogus grievances were being filed, causing you personal distress. I asked you for actual examples, because I thought you were just imagining things, and you haven't given us any examples yet. Now I'm asking you for examples of employees using the grievance proceedure to steal from the Company.</p><p> </p><p>Suppose a grievant wanted to increase his pay by just one penny per hour. How would he successfully use the grievance process to "steal" the penny? What clause would he cite that UPS was violating? What language would he cite to justify his newly found "right" to the penny? I doubt you could even put such a grievance into words on paper.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JonFrum, post: 752641, member: 18044"] The purpose of the grievance process is to enforce the Contract when a provision is being violated, or to get a clarification of a vague provision or situation. Neither side can successfully use the grievance process to advance their cause by creating new benefits for their side. Decisions in the grievance process ultimately are made by the same people who negotiated the language in the first place. And the decisions are made by agreement by both sides, Management and Labor. New gains can't be achieved unless the Contract is reopened and renegotiated by mutual agreement. Nor can gains be made in arbitration. Arbitrators have no authority to create new benefits. They can only apply existing language. "You can't get in arbitration what you didn't get in negotiation." Your hatred of Union members is causing you to imagine we are using the grievance process to steal from the Company. Earlier your hatred of Union members caused you to imagine that all sorts of bogus grievances were being filed, causing you personal distress. I asked you for actual examples, because I thought you were just imagining things, and you haven't given us any examples yet. Now I'm asking you for examples of employees using the grievance proceedure to steal from the Company. Suppose a grievant wanted to increase his pay by just one penny per hour. How would he successfully use the grievance process to "steal" the penny? What clause would he cite that UPS was violating? What language would he cite to justify his newly found "right" to the penny? I doubt you could even put such a grievance into words on paper. [/QUOTE]
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