"At-Will" Employment

Discussion in 'FedEx Discussions' started by MrFedEx, Apr 10, 2011.

  1. MrFedEx

    MrFedEx Engorged Member

    We recently were given our new and improved Employee Handbook. Instead of just handing it to us, we had to sign a legal statement that we'd received it. I believe the term "At-Will" appeared about 4 or 5 times in bold print within the several paragraphs on the statement.

    There wasn't an option allowing you to refuse to sign. A manager was sitting in the check-in room and telling people they'd be written-up if they didn't sign.

    More insulation against lawsuits.
     
  2. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt You can call me Chappy Staff Member

    I see the implications that you have a Risk Management group at FedEx too!

    Most communications that come from Corporate offices are directed at the behest or urgings of the Legal and Risk Management departments ... nothing special just a Corporation doing what Corporations do.
     
  3. LTFedExer

    LTFedExer New Member

    Which years handbook is this?
     
  4. MrFedEx

    MrFedEx Engorged Member

    Current year. Didn't you have to sign the statement?
     
  5. MrFedEx

    MrFedEx Engorged Member


    Just curious. Does UPS do the same thing? When I was there as a Feeder Temp, I never had to read anything, but I was only a peak employee.
     
  6. LTFedExer

    LTFedExer New Member

    Haven't gotten the book for 2011/12 fiscal, if that's the 1 your taking about. Last years book had a page in the back you tore out. It said nothing about 'at will'.
     
  7. MrFedEx

    MrFedEx Engorged Member

    This year's version is just as I described.
     
  8. Mr. 7

    Mr. 7 The monkey on the left.

    Just because I signed something saying I received the book, doesn't mean I read it.
    If they don't give me time on the clock to read it, don't expect me to know what's in that book.
     
  9. LTFedExer

    LTFedExer New Member

    Haven't seen it yet.
     
  10. vantexan

    vantexan Well-Known Member

    We had to go online in mgr's office to acknowledge we've received it.
     
  11. vantexan

    vantexan Well-Known Member

    Take it from someone who's been bit, if there's something in there that justifies their actions that affect you, it will be pointed out to you and not knowing about it won't get you anywhere.
     
  12. DOWNTRODDEN IN TEXAS

    DOWNTRODDEN IN TEXAS Active Member

    This is what FAMIS 56 is for...courier admin and it gives you time to hit the bathroom before you go home...lol
     
  13. bbsam

    bbsam Moderator Staff Member

    That's true. Like an extension of the fact that you can be served legal notice in local classifieds. You don't have to read it for them to fulfill their obligation.
     
  14. LTFedExer

    LTFedExer New Member

    Ignorance of the law is not a defense. Same with policy and procedure.
     
  15. MrFedEx

    MrFedEx Engorged Member

    OK, I agree. So FedEx should give everyone several hours to read the Employee Handbook on the clock before they are forced to sign a legal statement. Instead, they shove something at you at the end of a meeting and you legally obligate yourself by a quick signature that your manager says that you must sign. I know someone who refuses to sign things occasionally. Recently, they suspended him for a week and escorted him off the property after confiscating his badge, all because he wouldn't sign the new 2-5 notice.
     
  16. grgrcr88

    grgrcr88 No It's not green grocer!

    Sign these documents with the phrase "Under threat of termination" included next to your signiture. Even include the managers name that threatened you.
     
  17. LTFedExer

    LTFedExer New Member

    You know as well as I do that 99% of the policies haven't changed in YEARS. The only thing you would need to know are if there are any changes, additions or deletions. New hires should be given a copy during courier class. I remember the teachers explaining the major policies (falsification, etc). Not sure they still do though.
     
  18. MrFedEx

    MrFedEx Engorged Member

    The policies may not have changed that much, but the emphasis on certain aspects of them has changed a lot. Why else would FedEx go to the trouble of repeating the same legal phraseology 4 or 5 times in a couple of paragraphs? There's a reason.
     
  19. LTFedExer

    LTFedExer New Member

    Because some people just don't 'get it' unless you tell them more than once or that's how its done in 'legalese'.
     
  20. Sleeve_meet_Heart

    Sleeve_meet_Heart making the unreadable unreadabler

    ha. The only things we sign (hourlies) are our paychecks if necessary, as well as the DOT/MV record federal mandated stuff.