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<blockquote data-quote="standtall" data-source="post: 1543532" data-attributes="member: 57406"><p>What we disagree on is the proper way to clean up this union and make it more affective. You believe that holding back dues money will somehow force the union's hand and make them work harder. I know that holding back dues money opens the door for freeloaders, and every Tom Dick and Harry that feels he has ever been misrepresented or simply believes his hard work is why he gets paid so much. If you have any common sense at all you know that is true. I would never blindly follow a political parties view for the sake of the party. Although we apparently seek the same result (roughly) we are miles apart in how to get there. I've been watching RTW and other similar legislation at work my entire life. I don't have to get my information from a right or a left wing TV or radio program. I've watched company after company close there plants in union states only to reopen the exact same plants in a nonunion state. That is not "good" for union labor my man. That is good for the large corporations that push the RTW legislation. I am on the correct side of this issue. I know this from living it. You think you are correct because that is what you here from listening to right wing radio. Your talking points are counterintuitive to the actual results pertaining to the loss of union workers. Your always quick to throw out your figures about loss of union work nation wide. What you ALWAYS gloss over is the simple fact that the .5% growth in union jobs in RTW states came largely due to the fact that 4.6% of the Union jobs moved from the Union state to the RTW state to avoid union compensation.That is a 4.1% net loss in union work due to RTW legislation. That mister, is a simple fact. RTW has a negative net effect on union employment. Not that that would suprise anyone.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="standtall, post: 1543532, member: 57406"] What we disagree on is the proper way to clean up this union and make it more affective. You believe that holding back dues money will somehow force the union's hand and make them work harder. I know that holding back dues money opens the door for freeloaders, and every Tom Dick and Harry that feels he has ever been misrepresented or simply believes his hard work is why he gets paid so much. If you have any common sense at all you know that is true. I would never blindly follow a political parties view for the sake of the party. Although we apparently seek the same result (roughly) we are miles apart in how to get there. I've been watching RTW and other similar legislation at work my entire life. I don't have to get my information from a right or a left wing TV or radio program. I've watched company after company close there plants in union states only to reopen the exact same plants in a nonunion state. That is not "good" for union labor my man. That is good for the large corporations that push the RTW legislation. I am on the correct side of this issue. I know this from living it. You think you are correct because that is what you here from listening to right wing radio. Your talking points are counterintuitive to the actual results pertaining to the loss of union workers. Your always quick to throw out your figures about loss of union work nation wide. What you ALWAYS gloss over is the simple fact that the .5% growth in union jobs in RTW states came largely due to the fact that 4.6% of the Union jobs moved from the Union state to the RTW state to avoid union compensation.That is a 4.1% net loss in union work due to RTW legislation. That mister, is a simple fact. RTW has a negative net effect on union employment. Not that that would suprise anyone. [/QUOTE]
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