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<blockquote data-quote="pretzel_man" data-source="post: 1076169" data-attributes="member: 927"><p>BeenThere:</p><p></p><p>1st answer: I heard the same as you, although never from an official source. It was either work of mouth or from informal discussions.</p><p></p><p>2nd answer: When the market study was done a few years ago, a good friend in corporate told me about it. He told me that after the changes, supervisors and managers were still above market pay for similar jobs. He said that Division managers were about equal and that above that level they were still somewhat behind. I did not see the study personally, but have no reason to not believe him.</p><p></p><p>So, here is opinion and what I've seen. I work a lot with people at high levels in other companies. I'm often asked my advice because of my background at UPS. Based on what I've seen, I think the study is right, but I also see some discrepancies.</p><p></p><p>In other companies, often similar jobs to our supervisors are not management positions. They therefore get lower pay.</p><p></p><p>Will this change to "market pay" result in market effort? Time will tell. </p><p></p><p>There is no doubt that we have lost a lot over the years. I could go on for an hour about that. However, I put the cause of that in a different place than others.</p><p></p><p>I just completed my 37th peak season. Even though I don't work in operations today, more than half of my time was in operations; Hub, Feeder, Package, Int'l. I do regularly get into centers, a few times a month. </p><p></p><p>When I do, I still see great people in both management and hourly ranks. That part is unchanged at least. I have not given up faith yet.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pretzel_man, post: 1076169, member: 927"] BeenThere: 1st answer: I heard the same as you, although never from an official source. It was either work of mouth or from informal discussions. 2nd answer: When the market study was done a few years ago, a good friend in corporate told me about it. He told me that after the changes, supervisors and managers were still above market pay for similar jobs. He said that Division managers were about equal and that above that level they were still somewhat behind. I did not see the study personally, but have no reason to not believe him. So, here is opinion and what I've seen. I work a lot with people at high levels in other companies. I'm often asked my advice because of my background at UPS. Based on what I've seen, I think the study is right, but I also see some discrepancies. In other companies, often similar jobs to our supervisors are not management positions. They therefore get lower pay. Will this change to "market pay" result in market effort? Time will tell. There is no doubt that we have lost a lot over the years. I could go on for an hour about that. However, I put the cause of that in a different place than others. I just completed my 37th peak season. Even though I don't work in operations today, more than half of my time was in operations; Hub, Feeder, Package, Int'l. I do regularly get into centers, a few times a month. When I do, I still see great people in both management and hourly ranks. That part is unchanged at least. I have not given up faith yet. [/QUOTE]
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