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UPS Union Issues
Contract Talks begin 27-September-2012
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<blockquote data-quote="PobreCarlos" data-source="post: 982105" data-attributes="member: 16651"><p>BigUnionGuy;</p><p></p><p>And in what way are you implying that I don't? Because I didn't mouth the words "Local Union Autonomy"?</p><p></p><p>Beyond that, the issue goes well beyond one of local autonomy, and into the issue of the Teamsters utilizing multi-employer pension funds...and then not sustaining the contributing employers. Although we're seeing somewhat of a divergence in that direction now (referring to the recent new member limited liability thing with Central States), the existing employer liability, coupled with the fact that there are already several times more current beneficiaries than contributing members in certain of the plans, "work" against Teamster "willingness". And that lack of willingness - albeit perhaps best for the union overall (I'm not qualified to judge that) - is definitely costly to members still employed by contributing firms like UPS; they're getting the shaft by virtue their having to cover for their fellow union brothers and sisters economic short-sightedness. And by "short-sightedness", of course, I'm referring to their putting their employers out of business. Outside of UPS, ABF, and the remains of the YRCW system, there just aren't many of the Teamster transportation employers of a few decades ago still standing.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="PobreCarlos, post: 982105, member: 16651"] BigUnionGuy; And in what way are you implying that I don't? Because I didn't mouth the words "Local Union Autonomy"? Beyond that, the issue goes well beyond one of local autonomy, and into the issue of the Teamsters utilizing multi-employer pension funds...and then not sustaining the contributing employers. Although we're seeing somewhat of a divergence in that direction now (referring to the recent new member limited liability thing with Central States), the existing employer liability, coupled with the fact that there are already several times more current beneficiaries than contributing members in certain of the plans, "work" against Teamster "willingness". And that lack of willingness - albeit perhaps best for the union overall (I'm not qualified to judge that) - is definitely costly to members still employed by contributing firms like UPS; they're getting the shaft by virtue their having to cover for their fellow union brothers and sisters economic short-sightedness. And by "short-sightedness", of course, I'm referring to their putting their employers out of business. Outside of UPS, ABF, and the remains of the YRCW system, there just aren't many of the Teamster transportation employers of a few decades ago still standing. [/QUOTE]
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