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<blockquote data-quote="dannyboy" data-source="post: 601360" data-attributes="member: 484"><p>Scratch</p><p> </p><p>This is a UPSers site. Always has been, always will be.</p><p> </p><p>And the open and usually honest discussion of ideas is what has made it great. Both sides present their opinion and experience, and the rest make the decision as to who made the better argument. And hopefully, the truth will win out.</p><p> </p><p>Tie, I must say that while at times Sobers viewpoints are a bit one sided, I do find a stinging truth to some of the examples he gave. He did so with humor, and sometimes while it is humorous, it also has a serious bite to it.</p><p> </p><p>Deal with it. Thats life. </p><p> </p><p>The bottom line to the whole discussion is that we understand the need for IE. But we also see issues, issues that members of this board that have worked IE know are there. Issues that need to be addressed, without blame assigned. Currently, it would seem the blame gets put on the service provider.</p><p> </p><p>We know there is a problem. You know there is a problem. So dont ignore it, sweep it under the pile of paperwork, deal with it, fix it.</p><p> </p><p>I also find that the mods use moderation in moderation. It usually has to be pretty bad to get kicked off. I thought I had lost it when I tried to find one that had a video on it that I did not have time to watch at first, and then it was gone.</p><p> </p><p>d</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dannyboy, post: 601360, member: 484"] Scratch This is a UPSers site. Always has been, always will be. And the open and usually honest discussion of ideas is what has made it great. Both sides present their opinion and experience, and the rest make the decision as to who made the better argument. And hopefully, the truth will win out. Tie, I must say that while at times Sobers viewpoints are a bit one sided, I do find a stinging truth to some of the examples he gave. He did so with humor, and sometimes while it is humorous, it also has a serious bite to it. Deal with it. Thats life. The bottom line to the whole discussion is that we understand the need for IE. But we also see issues, issues that members of this board that have worked IE know are there. Issues that need to be addressed, without blame assigned. Currently, it would seem the blame gets put on the service provider. We know there is a problem. You know there is a problem. So dont ignore it, sweep it under the pile of paperwork, deal with it, fix it. I also find that the mods use moderation in moderation. It usually has to be pretty bad to get kicked off. I thought I had lost it when I tried to find one that had a video on it that I did not have time to watch at first, and then it was gone. d [/QUOTE]
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