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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 1415517" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>You said none of the OT can be used as christian doctrine. What is doctrine? From the Etymology Online Dictionary under the word doctrine:</p><p></p><p></p><p>How do you teach Jesus without the OT which from the christian POV foretold of Jesus? Why do we need Jesus at all when the so-called Fall of Man in the Garden of Eden made Jesus an absolute necessity for the purpose of redemption? The very fundamental foundation of the need for christianity in the first place. How do we know there is only one god? From your POV, how do we even know morality or the basis moral code? If no OT is needed, where did Jesus get his morality from?</p><p></p><p>I would argue just the opposite of your point, the OT is fundamental to christianity as we know it in the larger context today. But there is another argument in which you are fundamentally correct on your point concerning the OT but to make that argument you will have to argue from the gnostic POV and much of that is seen heretical from the view of orthodox christianity. If you haven't you should read the Gospel of Thomas as well as the other works of the Nag Hammadi library. Great read, especially the Gospel of Thomas.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 1415517, member: 2189"] You said none of the OT can be used as christian doctrine. What is doctrine? From the Etymology Online Dictionary under the word doctrine: How do you teach Jesus without the OT which from the christian POV foretold of Jesus? Why do we need Jesus at all when the so-called Fall of Man in the Garden of Eden made Jesus an absolute necessity for the purpose of redemption? The very fundamental foundation of the need for christianity in the first place. How do we know there is only one god? From your POV, how do we even know morality or the basis moral code? If no OT is needed, where did Jesus get his morality from? I would argue just the opposite of your point, the OT is fundamental to christianity as we know it in the larger context today. But there is another argument in which you are fundamentally correct on your point concerning the OT but to make that argument you will have to argue from the gnostic POV and much of that is seen heretical from the view of orthodox christianity. If you haven't you should read the Gospel of Thomas as well as the other works of the Nag Hammadi library. Great read, especially the Gospel of Thomas. [/QUOTE]
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