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<blockquote data-quote="The Other Side" data-source="post: 1523202" data-attributes="member: 17969"><p>Exactly.</p><p></p><p>The GPS tip was given to me by a sleeper veteran who also traveled the same highways I have to travel. The fog can get real thick and soupy at night, and on the highway, you can't see the road ahead bending or turning to either side until the last possible moment.</p><p></p><p>By using the GPS, you can plan ahead for curves and such that you cannot anticipate being in the middle of the night in dense fog.</p><p></p><p>For those that think you can just stop the tractor and wait for the fog to lift, well, you better get into feeder to understand the rules.</p><p></p><p>CMG/ICC makes all the calls, The drivers have NO AUTHORITY to stop the Tractor on their own without clearing it with them first. If they Approve it, you can stop, in all cases, they insist you keep moving only advising you to slow down and be careful.</p><p></p><p>Relay points cannot be missed. If you stop the tractor for hours waiting for fog to lift, you will miss your relay and CMG will then redirect you to the final destination.</p><p></p><p>This happens all the time. A team scheduled for mesquite tx with a florida long box was late to T.A. in Texas because of bad weather. That team was redirected to florida extending the route over 5000 miles and taking all 7 days. The entire "downtime" went unpaid.</p><p></p><p>Thats the next point. If CMG/ICC doesn't approve stopping the tractor, that time will all go unpaid. </p><p></p><p>Making the scheduled times are critical as the loads have to be sorted and processed on the proper sort. If you are taking a twilight box scheduled for thursday night and you show up at sunrise on friday morning, then the entire trailer is late. If you are late because you thought you were "captain of the ship" and went against CMG/ICC you could face disciplinary action upon your return.</p><p></p><p>While its true that you can stop the tractor if "you" feel unsafe, but that doesn' put you in the right. You will be subject to talks after that decision.</p><p></p><p>Two weeks ago, i traveled to Santa Rosa New Mexico. Road was clear all the way to flagstaff az, once over the hill and entering Grants, it began snowing to white out conditions. Then as we traveled closer to Gallop NM, we had a combination fog, snow and ice. There were wrecks all over the place, tractors in the ditches, passenger cars spun out. We called CMG and we were told to keep moving. At that point, we had no choice.</p><p></p><p>Conditions were such, that even if we did stop, with all the ice, we would have never regained traction and moved a set of doubles off the shoulder.</p><p></p><p>On my shift, I started at 530pm pst and stopped at 830am pst. Well over the allowed hours, but conditions were such that there were no cleared off ramps, and the shoulder covered in unplowed snow near 2 feet. Once you get to albuqueque, its an all uphill climb to Santa Rosa, and if you think you can stop a tractor in the hills then you don't know anything about tractor trailers in the snow.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Even though we traveled at less than 30 miles per hour for the last 97 miles of my leg, we still managed to meet our relay drivers who were waiting from Oklahoma. Luckily, they were also delayed by record snow on that night from Oklahoma to New Mexico.</p><p></p><p>Contrary to what has been said on this thread, you don't have the authority to stop the tractor without permission. There is no "stopping to let the fog lift" in sleeper.</p><p></p><p>TOS.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Other Side, post: 1523202, member: 17969"] Exactly. The GPS tip was given to me by a sleeper veteran who also traveled the same highways I have to travel. The fog can get real thick and soupy at night, and on the highway, you can't see the road ahead bending or turning to either side until the last possible moment. By using the GPS, you can plan ahead for curves and such that you cannot anticipate being in the middle of the night in dense fog. For those that think you can just stop the tractor and wait for the fog to lift, well, you better get into feeder to understand the rules. CMG/ICC makes all the calls, The drivers have NO AUTHORITY to stop the Tractor on their own without clearing it with them first. If they Approve it, you can stop, in all cases, they insist you keep moving only advising you to slow down and be careful. Relay points cannot be missed. If you stop the tractor for hours waiting for fog to lift, you will miss your relay and CMG will then redirect you to the final destination. This happens all the time. A team scheduled for mesquite tx with a florida long box was late to T.A. in Texas because of bad weather. That team was redirected to florida extending the route over 5000 miles and taking all 7 days. The entire "downtime" went unpaid. Thats the next point. If CMG/ICC doesn't approve stopping the tractor, that time will all go unpaid. Making the scheduled times are critical as the loads have to be sorted and processed on the proper sort. If you are taking a twilight box scheduled for thursday night and you show up at sunrise on friday morning, then the entire trailer is late. If you are late because you thought you were "captain of the ship" and went against CMG/ICC you could face disciplinary action upon your return. While its true that you can stop the tractor if "you" feel unsafe, but that doesn' put you in the right. You will be subject to talks after that decision. Two weeks ago, i traveled to Santa Rosa New Mexico. Road was clear all the way to flagstaff az, once over the hill and entering Grants, it began snowing to white out conditions. Then as we traveled closer to Gallop NM, we had a combination fog, snow and ice. There were wrecks all over the place, tractors in the ditches, passenger cars spun out. We called CMG and we were told to keep moving. At that point, we had no choice. Conditions were such, that even if we did stop, with all the ice, we would have never regained traction and moved a set of doubles off the shoulder. On my shift, I started at 530pm pst and stopped at 830am pst. Well over the allowed hours, but conditions were such that there were no cleared off ramps, and the shoulder covered in unplowed snow near 2 feet. Once you get to albuqueque, its an all uphill climb to Santa Rosa, and if you think you can stop a tractor in the hills then you don't know anything about tractor trailers in the snow. Even though we traveled at less than 30 miles per hour for the last 97 miles of my leg, we still managed to meet our relay drivers who were waiting from Oklahoma. Luckily, they were also delayed by record snow on that night from Oklahoma to New Mexico. Contrary to what has been said on this thread, you don't have the authority to stop the tractor without permission. There is no "stopping to let the fog lift" in sleeper. TOS. [/QUOTE]
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