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Do you think this warning letter for a late Early AM is justified?
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<blockquote data-quote="Socrates" data-source="post: 1302770" data-attributes="member: 36964"><p>I don't know what kind of handtrucks the rest of you have (aerodynamic, perfectly molded to your truck, etc.?), but even pushing over 70's out of the rear of your truck and onto the handcart, 92 times out of 100, requires lifting the front end of the pkg onto the hand cart. The bumper is lower than the cab floor, but only by a few inches, so for a 7' 100lb piece of furniture, you'd have to push it 4 feet or more past the fulcrum and hope it plops perfectly into place. Then you have to go back around and try to lift it from the side (a violation of the 8 keys of lifting and lowering) if it protruded above the handle.</p><p></p><p>And that's if it's a perfectly flat/smooth and long box. What about 80lb anchors, or suitcases, or carpets/fabric rolls, or bottom-heavy moving/cubic box, etc? Yeah, and good luck shoving a truck part strapped to a 1/2 wooden pallet out of the back of your truck <em>without lifting it whatsoever</em>.</p><p></p><p> Not much of one. Like a butter knife on one side, and a Michonne Katana edge on the other.</p><p></p><p>Production standards aren't in the contract, so if Management wanted to play the "Safety Or Else" game, they lose. If they want to play the "Production Or Else" game, they also lose. There isn't really a middle ground where they get their way no matter what, unless they get caught up in the minutia of like improper footwear, or not shaving, or being 2 minutes late, etc. But as far as, once you're in the truck making deliveries (aka, the 98% of time we spend outside the center), it's game over. Teamsters win. Fatality.</p><p></p><p>Imagine it yourself. Get yelled at because your shoes aren't shiny? Spend 20 minutes doing a "proper" DOT pre-trip. Clocked in 2 minutes late yesterday and got a warning letter? Next time if you know you'll be late, just tell them you aren't showing up--if they're going to count Lates the same as Absences, then just be Absent. Get yelled at for 'production'? Start using the handcart for anything even moderately heavy, like 40lbs for 20 feet when you normally wouldn't break it out unless the pkg is 70lbs for 50+ feet. One worker gets a warning letter after getting injured for not using the hand rail? I now put every single package down in the stairwell, and initiate 4 points of contact every time I leave the vehicle. --- Oh, and feel free to videotape all of the above. Good luck convincing the public, politicians, etc. that I'm being "unsafe" or purposely being "obtuse". Show them a video of you "safely" tucking a 30lb package under your arm and exiting with 3 points. I'm sure that'll go over well.</p><p></p><p>It'd be a long game, but in the end, you and I both know which side would emerge victorious. We'd get more routes, lesser loads, a more representative workforce (more Females, Minorities, etc.)...we'd win everywhere. But as long as 90% of the drivers are just screeching to "tough it out" (mostly the 0-15 year guys still with mostly-functional knees/backs), then we'll get nowhere.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Socrates, post: 1302770, member: 36964"] I don't know what kind of handtrucks the rest of you have (aerodynamic, perfectly molded to your truck, etc.?), but even pushing over 70's out of the rear of your truck and onto the handcart, 92 times out of 100, requires lifting the front end of the pkg onto the hand cart. The bumper is lower than the cab floor, but only by a few inches, so for a 7' 100lb piece of furniture, you'd have to push it 4 feet or more past the fulcrum and hope it plops perfectly into place. Then you have to go back around and try to lift it from the side (a violation of the 8 keys of lifting and lowering) if it protruded above the handle. And that's if it's a perfectly flat/smooth and long box. What about 80lb anchors, or suitcases, or carpets/fabric rolls, or bottom-heavy moving/cubic box, etc? Yeah, and good luck shoving a truck part strapped to a 1/2 wooden pallet out of the back of your truck [I]without lifting it whatsoever[/I]. Not much of one. Like a butter knife on one side, and a Michonne Katana edge on the other. Production standards aren't in the contract, so if Management wanted to play the "Safety Or Else" game, they lose. If they want to play the "Production Or Else" game, they also lose. There isn't really a middle ground where they get their way no matter what, unless they get caught up in the minutia of like improper footwear, or not shaving, or being 2 minutes late, etc. But as far as, once you're in the truck making deliveries (aka, the 98% of time we spend outside the center), it's game over. Teamsters win. Fatality. Imagine it yourself. Get yelled at because your shoes aren't shiny? Spend 20 minutes doing a "proper" DOT pre-trip. Clocked in 2 minutes late yesterday and got a warning letter? Next time if you know you'll be late, just tell them you aren't showing up--if they're going to count Lates the same as Absences, then just be Absent. Get yelled at for 'production'? Start using the handcart for anything even moderately heavy, like 40lbs for 20 feet when you normally wouldn't break it out unless the pkg is 70lbs for 50+ feet. One worker gets a warning letter after getting injured for not using the hand rail? I now put every single package down in the stairwell, and initiate 4 points of contact every time I leave the vehicle. --- Oh, and feel free to videotape all of the above. Good luck convincing the public, politicians, etc. that I'm being "unsafe" or purposely being "obtuse". Show them a video of you "safely" tucking a 30lb package under your arm and exiting with 3 points. I'm sure that'll go over well. It'd be a long game, but in the end, you and I both know which side would emerge victorious. We'd get more routes, lesser loads, a more representative workforce (more Females, Minorities, etc.)...we'd win everywhere. But as long as 90% of the drivers are just screeching to "tough it out" (mostly the 0-15 year guys still with mostly-functional knees/backs), then we'll get nowhere. [/QUOTE]
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