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<blockquote data-quote="nospinzone" data-source="post: 97375" data-attributes="member: 1335"><p>Wkmac,</p><p>First, get a cold drink, sit down, and relax.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Nowhere in my post did I emply that you were anti or pro APWA. The only place i referred to you directly or indirectly was in my greeting. Dont read so much into my posts. If I wanted to imply that you were anti/pro I would have come out and said it. Youve made it quite clear numerous times in other posts where your position is on APWA.</p><p></p><p> Where have I made statements that I cant back up? Show me. Take a minute to review my posts on this web board. I think you'll find that any statements of fact that I presume to make are most often sourced with a website. If its my opinion, than I say its my opinion. I agree that there have been over-eager people making false statements and conjectures as if they officially speak for APWA which only adds confusion to the conversation. I avoid those situations at all costs, or just keep the comments to myself. Eskew can greenlight and declare that there is "One UPS" all he wants to(which is sound organizational and long term planning), but the decision to certify any bargaining agent falls on the employees. And greenlighting IBT just means that Eskew will not fight union organization in general. This "greenlighting" also included APWA if the Freight people want to bring them in. Eskew hasnt blessed the IBT organizing with a magic wand by any means. IMO, it would be in the best long term interest of UPS for APWA to be certified by both groups. Yes, it would follow the "One UPS" theme, but it would more importantly place a cap on the humongous long term liability associated with the failing pension plans like Central States. I dont disagree with the credibility statement. I have thought about that and discussed it with Eason. He agrees. But they also have made it clear that organizing UPSF is not their priority. UPS parcel is their priority. People from UPSF have been coming to meetings of their own interests, and if APWA gets put on the NLRB cards, it will only be because the people at UPSF did it themselves.</p><p></p><p>No hard feelings on this side, but just as yourself, I dont like to be misunderstood/inappropriately labeled.</p><p>Go METS!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="nospinzone, post: 97375, member: 1335"] Wkmac, First, get a cold drink, sit down, and relax. Nowhere in my post did I emply that you were anti or pro APWA. The only place i referred to you directly or indirectly was in my greeting. Dont read so much into my posts. If I wanted to imply that you were anti/pro I would have come out and said it. Youve made it quite clear numerous times in other posts where your position is on APWA. Where have I made statements that I cant back up? Show me. Take a minute to review my posts on this web board. I think you'll find that any statements of fact that I presume to make are most often sourced with a website. If its my opinion, than I say its my opinion. I agree that there have been over-eager people making false statements and conjectures as if they officially speak for APWA which only adds confusion to the conversation. I avoid those situations at all costs, or just keep the comments to myself. Eskew can greenlight and declare that there is "One UPS" all he wants to(which is sound organizational and long term planning), but the decision to certify any bargaining agent falls on the employees. And greenlighting IBT just means that Eskew will not fight union organization in general. This "greenlighting" also included APWA if the Freight people want to bring them in. Eskew hasnt blessed the IBT organizing with a magic wand by any means. IMO, it would be in the best long term interest of UPS for APWA to be certified by both groups. Yes, it would follow the "One UPS" theme, but it would more importantly place a cap on the humongous long term liability associated with the failing pension plans like Central States. I dont disagree with the credibility statement. I have thought about that and discussed it with Eason. He agrees. But they also have made it clear that organizing UPSF is not their priority. UPS parcel is their priority. People from UPSF have been coming to meetings of their own interests, and if APWA gets put on the NLRB cards, it will only be because the people at UPSF did it themselves. No hard feelings on this side, but just as yourself, I dont like to be misunderstood/inappropriately labeled. Go METS! [/QUOTE]
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