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For the 'Vote NO On Everything' crowd...what would you call a good contract?
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<blockquote data-quote="wilberforce15" data-source="post: 1125357" data-attributes="member: 5053"><p><span style="color: #000000"></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000">That message has been sent loud and clear. And it's been received.</span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000">The problem is that message is the wrong one. Everything y'all say (rightly) about corporate greed is also what PTers say about FTers. That's from those PTers who care. </span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000">You all really should stop wondering why PT union membership and activity is so low. You take two out of every three of the dollars they were getting, and then wonder why they don't come over for tea and brotherhood. For those who do believe in the union (despite what it has done to them), we're busy working our third jobs during the union meetings. You can't kick a guy in the nuts and then yell at him for not acting like a brother. You treat him like a brother, and then you get a brother. </span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000">Experienced UPSers need to take new guys in, show them the ropes, and give them a reasonable place to start from. It's amazing what you'll get in return if you do. It's also easy to know what you'll get if you don't - and that's what you're getting now - turnover, no union involvement, bitterness, and busted boxes in your poorly-loaded package car. </span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000">If we end up striking, then I'm sure the majority of people here will be outraged when part-timers cross the line to get their $10.00, instead of sitting in the sun so you can rip them off again. </span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wilberforce15, post: 1125357, member: 5053"] [COLOR=#000000] That message has been sent loud and clear. And it's been received. The problem is that message is the wrong one. Everything y'all say (rightly) about corporate greed is also what PTers say about FTers. That's from those PTers who care. You all really should stop wondering why PT union membership and activity is so low. You take two out of every three of the dollars they were getting, and then wonder why they don't come over for tea and brotherhood. For those who do believe in the union (despite what it has done to them), we're busy working our third jobs during the union meetings. You can't kick a guy in the nuts and then yell at him for not acting like a brother. You treat him like a brother, and then you get a brother. Experienced UPSers need to take new guys in, show them the ropes, and give them a reasonable place to start from. It's amazing what you'll get in return if you do. It's also easy to know what you'll get if you don't - and that's what you're getting now - turnover, no union involvement, bitterness, and busted boxes in your poorly-loaded package car. If we end up striking, then I'm sure the majority of people here will be outraged when part-timers cross the line to get their $10.00, instead of sitting in the sun so you can rip them off again. [/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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