Former Marine Says America Is ‘Becoming a Society That’s Encouraging Socialism’

rickyb

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Oh so your conspiracy theory is the fbi, started the investigation into the trump campaign involvement with Russia well before the election to deflect from neoliberals Obama and Clinton selling out the working class? this makes no sense. lol.
no the neoliberals themselves deflected from their own misdeeds
 

Old Man Jingles

Rat out of a cage
teh guy is tripping.

compared to the west, United States has no maternity leave, no vacation leave, most unaffordable college, and crappy national healthcare.

and your public transit sucks.
None of these are within the purview of the National government of the USA.
Most of these are the result of the USA Companies/corporations providing these 'benefits' because of FDR's Socialist wage controls during WW II.

Employer provides maternity leave.

Employer provides vacation time

Colleges are expensive because Unions made them so ... USA College Professors are well paid.
Our colleges in the STEM area are the envy of the world and other countries send their best students to the USA for STEM education.

The USA citizens prefer good roadways and their own autonomous vehicle ... where other citizens prefer public transportation, their State or Local government provides it.
 

SLW

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Colleges are expensive because Unions made them so ... USA College Professors are well paid.
Our colleges in the STEM area are the envy of the world and other countries send their best students to the USA for STEM education.

The USA citizens prefer good roadways and their own autonomous vehicle ... where other citizens prefer public transportation, their State or Local government provides it.
College is a racket, but most of the work is not done by tenured professors, especially in STEM, which relies heavily on low and unpaid student teachers. Efforts to unionize these people are extremely new, so organized labor is not to blame here.

Travel abroad more once this is over. Our roads :censored2:ing suck.
 

floridays

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My theory? The head of the fbi that trump picked said the investigation into trump and Russia’s was legit. He said this on camera in Congress. The DOJ released an IG report that said the investigation was legit. So what’s my theory again?
There was no campaign involvement, ask Mueller.
If legit as they claimed (at the time) it was based on lies, the Dossier.

Again, your theory is it was a legit investigation, an
investigation into the trump campaign involvement with Russia
None existed

WATCH: Rosenstein says he wouldn't approve Russia warrant now
 

refineryworker05

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refineryworker05

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no the neoliberals themselves deflected from their own misdeeds
What does that have to do with the fbi started investigation into the trump campaign and Russia? You see how one thing you posted that Clinton and Obama being neoliberals selling out the working class has nothing to do with that investigation?
 

floridays

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Again, my position is the investigation was legit. The fbi and the justice department agree and rosentein agreed at the time the investigation started it was legit.
Based on lies to initiate.
Mueller's conclusion

 

Old Man Jingles

Rat out of a cage
College is a racket, but most of the work is not done by tenured professors, especially in STEM, which relies heavily on low and unpaid student teachers. Efforts to unionize these people are extremely new, so organized labor is not to blame here.

Travel abroad more once this is over. Our roads *ing suck.
Not in Georgia ... I know Organized Crime is heavily involved in road building in the Northeast and other Large cities.
 

refineryworker05

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Based on lies to initiate.
Mueller's conclusion

No if they determined the investigation was based off of lies than the fbi director and the DOJ wouldn’t have said the investigation was legit. Please stop pretending.
 

floridays

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No if they determined the investigation was based off of lies than the fbi director and the DOJ wouldn’t have said the investigation was legit. Please stop pretending.
It was fabricated.

They are covering asses.
I'm not pretending anything, the investigation was started and run by upper level FBI, no field agents.
 

refineryworker05

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It was fabricated.

They are covering asses.
I'm not pretending anything, the investigation was started and run by upper level FBI, no field agents.
Then trump’s fbi director has no reason to lie, the DOJ headed by Barr had no reason to lie against trump. Again,either reality counts or it doesn’t. All the investigations show the steel dossier had nothing to do with starting the investigation. This has been well covered over and over the investigations were legit and trump’s own fbi director said so in front of congress. This reality doesn’t change.
 

rickyb

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What does that have to do with the fbi started investigation into the trump campaign and Russia? You see how one thing you posted that Clinton and Obama being neoliberals selling out the working class has nothing to do with that investigation?
im not talking about FBI. btw they also investigated trump the results happened before hte impeachment stuff and it didnt work out did it.
 

vantexan

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Then trump’s fbi director has no reason to lie, the DOJ headed by Barr had no reason to lie against trump. Again,either reality counts or it doesn’t. All the investigations show the steel dossier had nothing to do with starting the investigation. This has been well covered over and over the investigations were legit and trump’s own fbi director said so in front of congress. This reality doesn’t change.
Jeff Sessions was the first AG under Trump and he recused himself. Top officials from the DOJ and FBI are implicated in numerous documents plotting to spy on Trump's campaign(still under Obama) and then in the early days of the Trump administration. That's what's being investigated by Federal prosecutor John Durham right now and he's been given Special Prosecutor status. Your reality is missing some key components. The Steele Dossier was used by the FBI to get FISA warrants to spy on members of Trump's campaign. It has been totally debunked since and they knew before obtaining the warrants it hadn't been verified but said it had been, a felony. Hate to tell you this but Democrats, and some Republicans, broke the law. But that doesn't mean they will be held accountable. Remains to be seen.
 

rickyb

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None of these are within the purview of the National government of the USA.
Most of these are the result of the USA Companies/corporations providing these 'benefits' because of FDR's Socialist wage controls during WW II.

Employer provides maternity leave.

Employer provides vacation time

Colleges are expensive because Unions made them so ... USA College Professors are well paid.
Our colleges in the STEM area are the envy of the world and other countries send their best students to the USA for STEM education.

The USA citizens prefer good roadways and their own autonomous vehicle ... where other citizens prefer public transportation, their State or Local government provides it.
hey i have a hard time believing college profs in countries with affordable tuition are poorly paid. actually i would imagine quite often they are better paid than US. the govt has defunded education. and maybe everyone borrowing drives up the price too?

no you are no vacation nation. the report is called that too. you have no rights. the market pales in comparison to the countreis that guarantee 4 or more weeks vacation a year. i should know. ive never done a job that does that.

maternity leave as a right was something trump and hillary ran on, and their proposals were both pathetic compared to the rest of the world. im sure trump didnt follow through on whatever little he proposed.

i dont have the polling on public transportation in america. im assuming ppl want more.

the govt can obviously regulate these things just like it does a million other things for better or worse.
 
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vantexan

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Not in Georgia ... I know Organized Crime is heavily involved in road building in the Northeast and other Large cities.
When I lived in Connecticut there were over 30 garbage collectors in our neighborhood, all Mafia connected. Terrible service and if you complained might be weeks before they'd show up again. Never saw anything like it.
 

floridays

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When I lived in Connecticut there were over 30 garbage collectors in our neighborhood, all Mafia connected. Terrible service and if you complained might be weeks before they'd show up again. Never saw anything like it.
Trivial, what did the wives and daughters look like?
Lets get to the heart of the matter.
 
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