Nice line!
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Nice line!
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Dis-organized Labor
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My only point is that conventional thinking may no longer be appropriate.
I don't really believe there is some long-term, well thought out "plan", but with what has happened in the last decade, anything (albeit bizarro) could be possible.
brett636
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A better way to put it is radical muslims being radical muslims, and although this kind of behavior is not normal for the majority of the muslims of the world you sure do hear a lot more crickets chirping than outrage amongst the muslim community over this behavior. Try to publish a cartoon of Muhammad though and you will get an earful from muslims across the world. Muslim outrage is only sparked when Islam itself is characterized or attacked on a large scale, like when a teacher allows her class to name a teddy bear muhammad, but the silence is deafening when the more radical members of that religion choose to do something like this. Its almost as though the people that make up the Islam faith quietly condone this behavior similar to the catholic church and its silence over pedophile preachers.
brett636
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It seems there was some evidence pointing to that, but unfortunately the military acted too slowly to investigate it and now atleast 11 soldiers have paid the price for their leadership's lethargically slow investigative incompetence.
Why not stick to the facts of the case so far instead of the HYPERBOLE presented by FOX news?
This officer was about to be deployed, he has tried for months to get out of the service and was resisting being deployed to the middle east.
After months and months of trying, he just snapped.
There are many US soldiers who are facing this exact same situation all over this country. Fortunately, they dont snap and kill there comrades.
Instead, they are killing themselves.
Most of those are christians, so does that mean theres a religious connection to suicide and christianity??
This was a simple case of a muslim soldier not wanting to go overseas into a middle eastern country and be a part of a war he didnt believe in.
He was strong enough in his faith to not want to be a part of an occupying force dominating a muslim country and he just snapped.
If religion is all you want to focus on, then maybe you should petition the goverment to only hire christians.
Maybe you could start a movement "dont prey, dont tell"..??
This was tragic, yet the handwriting was on the wall for months and the chain of command failed those soldiers and civilians who lost there lives.
The army has to blame itself for this failure.
Indeed, the shooter shoulders all the blame and responsiblity for the end result, but the army shoulders the blame for not being able address this soldiers concerns before the act.
There are hundreds of muslims in the service, they are not "moles" but in fact recruited by the military for service in the middle east. Translators and having people on the battlefield who can connect with the muslims in battle is an important part of a war strategy.
Lets get over the FOX news hype of an AL Qaeda connection.
This officer was about to be deployed, he has tried for months to get out of the service and was resisting being deployed to the middle east.
After months and months of trying, he just snapped.
There are many US soldiers who are facing this exact same situation all over this country. Fortunately, they dont snap and kill there comrades.
Instead, they are killing themselves.
Most of those are christians, so does that mean theres a religious connection to suicide and christianity??
This was a simple case of a muslim soldier not wanting to go overseas into a middle eastern country and be a part of a war he didnt believe in.
He was strong enough in his faith to not want to be a part of an occupying force dominating a muslim country and he just snapped.
If religion is all you want to focus on, then maybe you should petition the goverment to only hire christians.
Maybe you could start a movement "dont prey, dont tell"..??
This was tragic, yet the handwriting was on the wall for months and the chain of command failed those soldiers and civilians who lost there lives.
The army has to blame itself for this failure.
Indeed, the shooter shoulders all the blame and responsiblity for the end result, but the army shoulders the blame for not being able address this soldiers concerns before the act.
There are hundreds of muslims in the service, they are not "moles" but in fact recruited by the military for service in the middle east. Translators and having people on the battlefield who can connect with the muslims in battle is an important part of a war strategy.
Lets get over the FOX news hype of an AL Qaeda connection.
moreluck
golden ticket member
"and although this kind of behavior is not normal for the majority of the muslims of the world "
I'm not convinced of that. I think "kill the infidels" is the goal of every Muslim.
We keep hearing "it's not normal" , but these tragedies keep happening.
Fool me once......you know the rest.
I'm not convinced of that. I think "kill the infidels" is the goal of every Muslim.
We keep hearing "it's not normal" , but these tragedies keep happening.
Fool me once......you know the rest.
brett636
Well-Known Member
"and although this kind of behavior is not normal for the majority of the muslims of the world "
I'm not convinced of that. I think "kill the infidels" is the goal of every Muslim.
We keep hearing "it's not normal" , but these tragedies keep happening.
Fool me once......you know the rest.
Thats why I elaborated on how the majority of muslims do not partake in such activities, but they certainly don't speak out against it, and in some cases strongly support these kind of attacks.
moreluck
golden ticket member
"This officer was about to be deployed, he has tried for months to get out of the service and was resisting being deployed to the middle east."
How convenient for him to wait until he has his doctorate ,compliments of U.S before he "snaps". What a joke. He's the enemy, period the end.
How convenient for him to wait until he has his doctorate ,compliments of U.S before he "snaps". What a joke. He's the enemy, period the end.
This was a simple case of a muslim soldier not wanting to go overseas into a middle eastern country and be a part of a war he didnt believe in.
He was strong enough in his faith to not want to be a part of an occupying force dominating a muslim country and he just snapped.
Last time I checked there was no draft!!!
If only his name had been Smith….Then I could continue to hold on to my own multicultural delusions and when somebody yells Allah Akbar just pray that my family and loved ones are not in the vicinity...
Our thoughts and prayers go out to the families and loved ones who are suffering through this senseless act!
brett636
Well-Known Member
Most likely it will be a military trial since it occurred on a military base by a military officer against mostly other military personnel, but I am not well versed on military law so I could be wrong on that.
brett636
Well-Known Member
Why not stick to the facts of the case so far instead of the HYPERBOLE presented by FOX news?
This officer was about to be deployed, he has tried for months to get out of the service and was resisting being deployed to the middle east.
After months and months of trying, he just snapped.
There are many US soldiers who are facing this exact same situation all over this country. Fortunately, they dont snap and kill there comrades.
Instead, they are killing themselves.
Most of those are christians, so does that mean theres a religious connection to suicide and christianity??
This was a simple case of a muslim soldier not wanting to go overseas into a middle eastern country and be a part of a war he didnt believe in.
He was strong enough in his faith to not want to be a part of an occupying force dominating a muslim country and he just snapped.
If religion is all you want to focus on, then maybe you should petition the goverment to only hire christians.
Maybe you could start a movement "dont prey, dont tell"..??
This was tragic, yet the handwriting was on the wall for months and the chain of command failed those soldiers and civilians who lost there lives.
The army has to blame itself for this failure.
Indeed, the shooter shoulders all the blame and responsiblity for the end result, but the army shoulders the blame for not being able address this soldiers concerns before the act.
There are hundreds of muslims in the service, they are not "moles" but in fact recruited by the military for service in the middle east. Translators and having people on the battlefield who can connect with the muslims in battle is an important part of a war strategy.
Lets get over the FOX news hype of an AL Qaeda connection.
Why do you ignore the fact that he is a muslim who is against the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, and he has stated that he supports the muslims who "stand up" against us. They have surveillance video of Hasan at a 7-11 in traditional muslim garb the morning of the attack(http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/11/06/fort.hood.suspect/index.html ), and him yelling "God is Great" in Arabic during the attack. Why can't you see that this was a religiously motivated attack by yet another Muslim.
May the soldiers who perished in this attack RIP, and man responsible pay for his actions.
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Dis-organized Labor
Guest
Correct. Military trial. I hope he lives and we throw him in one of the empty cages in Gitmo!
He can be tried either under the UCMJ (uniform code of military justice) or in federal court, the DOJ and the Pentagon will discuss it and decide which is the best way to handle it. The death penalty is available under either system.
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Dis-organized Labor
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Don't these people believe if they blow themselves and others up at the same time ( as well as spraing them with an AK), they're going to Heaven anyway.
A cage in Gitmo and lots of pork, alcohol and porn!
A Muslim's nightmare.
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