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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 308752" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>Couple of guys I work with are into softball and they had a mag. of </p><p>equipment and is that bat one of those $300 dollar jobs?</p><p><img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/emoticons/money.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":money:" title="Money :money:" data-shortname=":money:" /> I had no idea some of that stuff cost so much! What happened to the $20 Louisville slugger?</p><p> </p><p>Made me feel better when they slammed me 4 years ago for buying my daughter a $2k plus Gibson Les Paul guitar because for one that Les Paul has gone up in value and she's making money with it now!</p><p>$$$$$$ My 401k!</p><p><img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/happy-very.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":happy-very:" title="Happy Very :happy-very:" data-shortname=":happy-very:" /></p><p> </p><p> </p><p>OK, back to the topic of the thread. There are those who wholly believe in Global Warming and it's cause being man made. There are others who completely disgard any notion of global warming at all. To me, there has been documented a rise in average temps and yes they are slight but that's just the nature of it. And this is not a new phenomenon either, it's happened before. Doesn't disprove because the increments are small or it's happened before. However, it doesn't prove the worse IMO either but it's not something we should just blindly ignore. </p><p> </p><p>The beef is what is the exact cause and IMO I'm not convinced to pinpoint any exact cause as the culprit. I mean, melting ice in Iceland? Could it be temp. rise causing this as a result of CO2? Maybe but we now have to consider the recent find that volcanic magma flows have been discovered close to the surface under part of the Icelandic glacier and this could be causing some melting. </p><p> </p><p>Now this doesn't greenlight our abuse of nature but it does make one cause to think that going back to living in caves is not necessarily needed either at this moment. There are those and some evidence to support IMO that there is some solar activity that could be factoring into this. But here's what really bothers me and where the so-called conservative movement gives itself a black eye even under the guise of entertainment.</p><p> </p><p>You mentioned Rush and earlier this week going to work I was listening to my normal jazz radio when I decided to flip to AM to see what was on. Well I happen to hear Rush as he went off on Richard Branson who used one of his jets to test biofuel to see what results they might discover. Now I don't know all the specifics of the test, I just know of the fact that it was tested and to be honest it seems like a good idea and I applaud the effort. If we can fly jets on nothing but air I'm all for it even though the laws of physics say with that much mass it's impossible! But here's what Rush said.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><a href="http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_022508/content/01125106.guest.html" target="_blank">http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_022508/content/01125106.guest.html</a></p><p> </p><p>Rush went on to talk about the nature of coconut oil solidifying at room temp. and then the draconian measures of enviro-wackos of the left. Now Rush may have a point about coconut oil (I'm no coconut oil expert)and I'll be the first to agree about the draconian use of gov't by a variety of special interests on both sides but here's my beef. It's Richard Branson's airplane, it's his money, it's his arse on the line so where's the beef? Is it not possible that Sir Richard has developed a process where coconut oil won't solidify and in fact can work as a alternative fuel? What wrong with trying something outside the box? Geez Rush, what would you have said to the Wright Brothers? Or to bring it closer to home for you, would you have called Marconi a nutjob? But here's the kicker to me.</p><p> </p><p>We have this situation in our world called global islamic terror and I'm more than happy to debate the roots of it and it's relationship with Pan Arabism, Pan Islamism and Anglo Empire via American proxy but it's a fact we have it. It's also a fact that some of the money we are paying for fuel is finding it's way into some of those hands and at the least, our oil consumer dollars are at least propping up societies that breed the fighter stock for these movements. That said, I would see any effort that can potentially lead us to use less of an oil product that benefits those cultures and instead maybe benefit other cultures not as violent prone (maybe they could teach us something for a change <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/wink.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":wink2:" title="Wink :wink2:" data-shortname=":wink2:" />) and at the same time be a positive environmentally speaking. Talk about win/win. I mean one of the chief worries of enviro laws is the effect on economics and lifestyle in America (I would concur)and if biofuel works, then what is the downside other than to creatures (both foreign and DOMESTIC) that truth be known, the vast majority of the public don't like anyway!</p><p><img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/happy-very.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":happy-very:" title="Happy Very :happy-very:" data-shortname=":happy-very:" /></p><p> </p><p>I'll grant you that today we live in a society that is driven by "punking" or seeing how much they can get over on the other guy and it's not something I myself like either. Working nights I don't watch TV so on weekends I'm shocked to see commericals like the the one I saw the other day where a contestant comes on a show and is asked very personal questions to see if they will lie. The one I saw was a girl I think in front of her husband admitting for the purpose of getting more money that she would cheat with an old boyfriend to the point of leaving her husband. and we condemn Jerry Springer? </p><p> </p><p>OK, that in itself should be no shocker but to plug that crap into our living rooms nightly, what the hell does it say about us? And we can't understand it when an Osama bin Laden says he doesn't want American culture in the Islamic world! Looking at that commerical I had to wonder if Osama didn't have a good point afterall.</p><p> </p><p>What Penn and Teller did in basc human decency was wrong. No arguement there. But if you are gonna condemn the one, you gotta condemn it all and it does IMO need condemning. Both sides! In fact D, you can condemn it on true libertarian terms. The principle basis of libertarian philosophy is "commit no fraud." No exception that I know of that gives a pass when it comes to entertainment or humor purposes. You are always to the best of your ability be above board and I know Penn and Teller who are at best entertainers are first and foremeost entertainers so that should say much in itself about the video to begin with IMO. But we are a society more and more built on the shock value. I mean how much hard, boring data have I posted here for example and little response but then we can come here and call each other a few names and the board lights up like a Christmas tree. What does that say about us, D? Seems to tell me that if we don't like Penn and Teller we best not look in the mirror!</p><p> </p><p>Ever noticed how about every issue get's politicized in our culture these days? I mean nothing is black and white anymore with total concensus. Hell, even Katrina where a freaking storm came ashore causing widespread damage and destruction and all we wanted to do was argue about who really caused it! The people I really felt sorry for was not so much the folks in New Orleans who had it horrible but the other folks hit equally if not worse as hard as that is to fathom but because they didn't live in New Orleans, it's almost as if they didn't exist at all. But in the meantime they lost everrything to and did they cry and complain because the gov't ignored them? Nope, they picked up and soldier on and in the case of one family I'm proud of the fact that my wife and I were able to buy them a car. No it wasn't the latest model off the lot but it was a good running car and I thank the dealer for taking a loss as he wanted to help as well. I didn't once tell this family that this is how you are gonna rebuild your life, you must do it all this way or no way at all. Hell for all I know they are card carrying socialist democrats. LOL! All I did was give them a hammer, some 2x4's and nails so to speak and they built their own life back and that was the idea to begin with. No middle man, no beraucracy to skim money off the top. No central command, no powerful central control saying do it this way or else. I helped give them the raw materials and they built the life best suited for them.</p><p> </p><p>At UPS we all decry the massive micro managing from Glenlake and the lack that we can't be creative and innovative to the customers needs. You shall not depart the DIAD master plan in a sense! Glenlake sez it's a one size fits all world so the customer comes to our terms and not the other way around. Now that may be a bit overblown but there is a real point to that and my God how many UPSers scream bloody murder at that process? Yeah me too! How often I hear good UPSers, both management and hourly alike yell, "just give me the freedom at the local level to react to customer needs!"</p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 15px">"Just give me freedom at the local level!"</span></strong> Has a nice ring to it doesn't it? Funny, when I heard Rush and his rant, those words were the first thoughts that went through my head! And I'm sure to "dittoheads" they just can't believe I said and thought that. It's because they've yet to learn that Statism is not just a process for the so-called left! Public condemnation IMO of individual, private efforts of innovation is just as "WACKO" as an environmental law that sez human behavior root of evil! I'm wondering if folks like Rush were really in charge if they pass their own draconian laws so that we could protect Sir Richard from himself?</p><p><img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/wink.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":wink2:" title="Wink :wink2:" data-shortname=":wink2:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 308752, member: 2189"] Couple of guys I work with are into softball and they had a mag. of equipment and is that bat one of those $300 dollar jobs? :money: I had no idea some of that stuff cost so much! What happened to the $20 Louisville slugger? Made me feel better when they slammed me 4 years ago for buying my daughter a $2k plus Gibson Les Paul guitar because for one that Les Paul has gone up in value and she's making money with it now! $$$$$$ My 401k! :happy-very: OK, back to the topic of the thread. There are those who wholly believe in Global Warming and it's cause being man made. There are others who completely disgard any notion of global warming at all. To me, there has been documented a rise in average temps and yes they are slight but that's just the nature of it. And this is not a new phenomenon either, it's happened before. Doesn't disprove because the increments are small or it's happened before. However, it doesn't prove the worse IMO either but it's not something we should just blindly ignore. The beef is what is the exact cause and IMO I'm not convinced to pinpoint any exact cause as the culprit. I mean, melting ice in Iceland? Could it be temp. rise causing this as a result of CO2? Maybe but we now have to consider the recent find that volcanic magma flows have been discovered close to the surface under part of the Icelandic glacier and this could be causing some melting. Now this doesn't greenlight our abuse of nature but it does make one cause to think that going back to living in caves is not necessarily needed either at this moment. There are those and some evidence to support IMO that there is some solar activity that could be factoring into this. But here's what really bothers me and where the so-called conservative movement gives itself a black eye even under the guise of entertainment. You mentioned Rush and earlier this week going to work I was listening to my normal jazz radio when I decided to flip to AM to see what was on. Well I happen to hear Rush as he went off on Richard Branson who used one of his jets to test biofuel to see what results they might discover. Now I don't know all the specifics of the test, I just know of the fact that it was tested and to be honest it seems like a good idea and I applaud the effort. If we can fly jets on nothing but air I'm all for it even though the laws of physics say with that much mass it's impossible! But here's what Rush said. [URL]http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_022508/content/01125106.guest.html[/URL] Rush went on to talk about the nature of coconut oil solidifying at room temp. and then the draconian measures of enviro-wackos of the left. Now Rush may have a point about coconut oil (I'm no coconut oil expert)and I'll be the first to agree about the draconian use of gov't by a variety of special interests on both sides but here's my beef. It's Richard Branson's airplane, it's his money, it's his arse on the line so where's the beef? Is it not possible that Sir Richard has developed a process where coconut oil won't solidify and in fact can work as a alternative fuel? What wrong with trying something outside the box? Geez Rush, what would you have said to the Wright Brothers? Or to bring it closer to home for you, would you have called Marconi a nutjob? But here's the kicker to me. We have this situation in our world called global islamic terror and I'm more than happy to debate the roots of it and it's relationship with Pan Arabism, Pan Islamism and Anglo Empire via American proxy but it's a fact we have it. It's also a fact that some of the money we are paying for fuel is finding it's way into some of those hands and at the least, our oil consumer dollars are at least propping up societies that breed the fighter stock for these movements. That said, I would see any effort that can potentially lead us to use less of an oil product that benefits those cultures and instead maybe benefit other cultures not as violent prone (maybe they could teach us something for a change :wink2:) and at the same time be a positive environmentally speaking. Talk about win/win. I mean one of the chief worries of enviro laws is the effect on economics and lifestyle in America (I would concur)and if biofuel works, then what is the downside other than to creatures (both foreign and DOMESTIC) that truth be known, the vast majority of the public don't like anyway! :happy-very: I'll grant you that today we live in a society that is driven by "punking" or seeing how much they can get over on the other guy and it's not something I myself like either. Working nights I don't watch TV so on weekends I'm shocked to see commericals like the the one I saw the other day where a contestant comes on a show and is asked very personal questions to see if they will lie. The one I saw was a girl I think in front of her husband admitting for the purpose of getting more money that she would cheat with an old boyfriend to the point of leaving her husband. and we condemn Jerry Springer? OK, that in itself should be no shocker but to plug that crap into our living rooms nightly, what the hell does it say about us? And we can't understand it when an Osama bin Laden says he doesn't want American culture in the Islamic world! Looking at that commerical I had to wonder if Osama didn't have a good point afterall. What Penn and Teller did in basc human decency was wrong. No arguement there. But if you are gonna condemn the one, you gotta condemn it all and it does IMO need condemning. Both sides! In fact D, you can condemn it on true libertarian terms. The principle basis of libertarian philosophy is "commit no fraud." No exception that I know of that gives a pass when it comes to entertainment or humor purposes. You are always to the best of your ability be above board and I know Penn and Teller who are at best entertainers are first and foremeost entertainers so that should say much in itself about the video to begin with IMO. But we are a society more and more built on the shock value. I mean how much hard, boring data have I posted here for example and little response but then we can come here and call each other a few names and the board lights up like a Christmas tree. What does that say about us, D? Seems to tell me that if we don't like Penn and Teller we best not look in the mirror! Ever noticed how about every issue get's politicized in our culture these days? I mean nothing is black and white anymore with total concensus. Hell, even Katrina where a freaking storm came ashore causing widespread damage and destruction and all we wanted to do was argue about who really caused it! The people I really felt sorry for was not so much the folks in New Orleans who had it horrible but the other folks hit equally if not worse as hard as that is to fathom but because they didn't live in New Orleans, it's almost as if they didn't exist at all. But in the meantime they lost everrything to and did they cry and complain because the gov't ignored them? Nope, they picked up and soldier on and in the case of one family I'm proud of the fact that my wife and I were able to buy them a car. No it wasn't the latest model off the lot but it was a good running car and I thank the dealer for taking a loss as he wanted to help as well. I didn't once tell this family that this is how you are gonna rebuild your life, you must do it all this way or no way at all. Hell for all I know they are card carrying socialist democrats. LOL! All I did was give them a hammer, some 2x4's and nails so to speak and they built their own life back and that was the idea to begin with. No middle man, no beraucracy to skim money off the top. No central command, no powerful central control saying do it this way or else. I helped give them the raw materials and they built the life best suited for them. At UPS we all decry the massive micro managing from Glenlake and the lack that we can't be creative and innovative to the customers needs. You shall not depart the DIAD master plan in a sense! Glenlake sez it's a one size fits all world so the customer comes to our terms and not the other way around. Now that may be a bit overblown but there is a real point to that and my God how many UPSers scream bloody murder at that process? Yeah me too! How often I hear good UPSers, both management and hourly alike yell, "just give me the freedom at the local level to react to customer needs!" [B][SIZE=4]"Just give me freedom at the local level!"[/SIZE][/B] Has a nice ring to it doesn't it? Funny, when I heard Rush and his rant, those words were the first thoughts that went through my head! And I'm sure to "dittoheads" they just can't believe I said and thought that. It's because they've yet to learn that Statism is not just a process for the so-called left! Public condemnation IMO of individual, private efforts of innovation is just as "WACKO" as an environmental law that sez human behavior root of evil! I'm wondering if folks like Rush were really in charge if they pass their own draconian laws so that we could protect Sir Richard from himself? :wink2: [/QUOTE]
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