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<blockquote data-quote="diesel96" data-source="post: 655871" data-attributes="member: 9859"><p>Here's the story that defines our political parties, and those who behind the scenes try to back/justify one side or the other. Clearly conservatives have created a fantasy when it comes to how they define their take on religion, morals, limited gov't, and when it comes to the foundations of America. They look backward to a mythical time when people's behavior was defined equally by <em>Leave it to Beaver</em>, one in which markets were free, women were submissive, and all the colorful elves knew their place. It's not hard to imagine them floating down rivers flanked by giant stone statues of a Reagan on one side and a scowling Joe McCarthy on the other, past temples to Ayn Rand. Conservative utopia only existed in some mythic period outside of normal time, but they are determined to endlessly circle that stagnant goal. </p><p>Progressives tend to have more of a science fiction outlook. Sure, we may want our Star Trek uniforms made from envioromentally safe organically grown fibers, but who doesn't long for the time when we can throw away prejudices and break the "stay the course" roles that dictate our lives? An end to war. An end to hunger. A world where the condition of your parents doesn't restrict the possibility of your life. There's a reason that the word "progress" is bound up in progressive (and no, it's not meant to be ironic). Progressives are about making changes, moving forward, creating a world that's unlike the one we see around us with fewer flaws than we see today.</p><p>When you look at it that way, it's no wonder that progressives always seem to have the harder path. After all, inertia is against us. Conservatives are content to put their feet down and preserve the status quo. They have both the weight of the world and the fear of change on their side. Progressives have to persuade the unpersuaded to break into new territory, to pack away the past and face a world unlike what's come before. Worse, we are often put in the position, on everything form social issues to the environment, of being the ones that have to say, "what you are doing now is wrong." I don't have to tell you, that's a position that leads to some bruised egos and bloody noses.</p><p> So today we have, modern armchair pundits have rewritten the history of the United States, and the similiarities. And just because progressives look forward, it doesn't mean we're always successful. Sometimes we're the ones who get fixated on certain goals, even when those goals are no longer realistic. The results of bumping against the stubborn and corrupt mass of the world as it is can be frustrating. It's not hard for progressives to find failure. We can find them even in our successes.</p><p>But a low batting average is the price of science fiction. And even though you may think this sci fi is a remake, there are suttle differences.... JMHO</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="diesel96, post: 655871, member: 9859"] Here's the story that defines our political parties, and those who behind the scenes try to back/justify one side or the other. Clearly conservatives have created a fantasy when it comes to how they define their take on religion, morals, limited gov't, and when it comes to the foundations of America. They look backward to a mythical time when people's behavior was defined equally by [I]Leave it to Beaver[/I], one in which markets were free, women were submissive, and all the colorful elves knew their place. It's not hard to imagine them floating down rivers flanked by giant stone statues of a Reagan on one side and a scowling Joe McCarthy on the other, past temples to Ayn Rand. Conservative utopia only existed in some mythic period outside of normal time, but they are determined to endlessly circle that stagnant goal. Progressives tend to have more of a science fiction outlook. Sure, we may want our Star Trek uniforms made from envioromentally safe organically grown fibers, but who doesn't long for the time when we can throw away prejudices and break the "stay the course" roles that dictate our lives? An end to war. An end to hunger. A world where the condition of your parents doesn't restrict the possibility of your life. There's a reason that the word "progress" is bound up in progressive (and no, it's not meant to be ironic). Progressives are about making changes, moving forward, creating a world that's unlike the one we see around us with fewer flaws than we see today. When you look at it that way, it's no wonder that progressives always seem to have the harder path. After all, inertia is against us. Conservatives are content to put their feet down and preserve the status quo. They have both the weight of the world and the fear of change on their side. Progressives have to persuade the unpersuaded to break into new territory, to pack away the past and face a world unlike what's come before. Worse, we are often put in the position, on everything form social issues to the environment, of being the ones that have to say, "what you are doing now is wrong." I don't have to tell you, that's a position that leads to some bruised egos and bloody noses. So today we have, modern armchair pundits have rewritten the history of the United States, and the similiarities. And just because progressives look forward, it doesn't mean we're always successful. Sometimes we're the ones who get fixated on certain goals, even when those goals are no longer realistic. The results of bumping against the stubborn and corrupt mass of the world as it is can be frustrating. It's not hard for progressives to find failure. We can find them even in our successes. But a low batting average is the price of science fiction. And even though you may think this sci fi is a remake, there are suttle differences.... JMHO [/QUOTE]
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